Possible 2015 Jets Quarterbacks

WilliesDad wrote:

NickSINYC wrote:Brian Costello @BrianCoz  ·  1m 1 minute ago
Former Jets QB coach rips Geno Smith: His play 'killed us' #nyj: http://nyp.st/1sZAUms  via @nypost

To expand on that quote, Lee said that Geno's 'up and down' play is what "killed" them.  Which is somewhat true.  HOWEVER, he also said that "he also did some great things. The last five games this season he was the seventh-rated passer in the league. He had a perfect passer rating in his last game at Miami. The potential and ability is there.”

So contextually, it's not as bad as that sound bite sounds.  

But, what does this also say about his ability as a QB coach?  First Sanchez, then Geno both regress and play incredibly inconsistently.  To me, that means that his message was not effective.  That it didn't get through to either Geno OR Mark.  

I am glad he is gone - but still in our division and I can't wait to see what he does with "ace" up there (see the article in relation to my quote of 'ace').

NYJETSDAN16 wrote:Petty would be an interesting pick in the second round unless the Jets trade back into the 1st late to get him.

He's as gritty as they come and has played in an offense led by Art Briles in which is very similar to Chan Gailey's offense.  Would love to see Bryce in the mix with Fitzpatrick & Glennon for the starting job for '15.

GratefulJet wrote:If Glennon can't start for the worst team in the NFL, why on earth would we want him?

GratefulJet wrote:If Glennon can't start for the worst team in the NFL, why on earth would we want him?

NYJETSDAN16 wrote:

NickSINYC wrote:Brian Costello @BrianCoz  ·  1m 1 minute ago
Former Jets QB coach rips Geno Smith: His play 'killed us' #nyj: http://nyp.st/1sZAUms  via @nypost

And that's coming from a coach that worked with him.  So much a coach can do if the QB just doesn't get it.

Seaver wrote:
again it comes down to football IQ.........some teams/scouts get it...some don't......you'll see some dumbass team draft UCLA-Rod Hundley and think he will be a top flight NFL QB.  He just doesn't get it.

Geno has never lacked for physical tools........it's between his ears on the field that lacks.  The problem that I see is that some get blinded by the physical tools and think the mental is improving when in fact it is not always the case.  Take the last game, Geno was never pressured - he didn't have to fire up the brain to make a hurried decision.  His first reads were winning their battles.  He was playing a simple game of catch.  Go to some better defenses that hide coverage better and he is lost.  I don't know that he will ever progress beyond the limitations he currently has with reading a defense......but I certainly don't have the patience to wait years to see it.  I'm sure Bowles and McGM don't have much either.

One thing is for sure.......whatever fate awaits Geno, it will be merit based alone.  

GratefulJet wrote:

Seaver wrote:
again it comes down to football IQ.........some teams/scouts get it...some don't......you'll see some dumbass team draft UCLA-Rod Hundley and think he will be a top flight NFL QB.  He just doesn't get it.

Geno has never lacked for physical tools........it's between his ears on the field that lacks.  The problem that I see is that some get blinded by the physical tools and think the mental is improving when in fact it is not always the case.  Take the last game, Geno was never pressured - he didn't have to fire up the brain to make a hurried decision.  His first reads were winning their battles.  He was playing a simple game of catch.  Go to some better defenses that hide coverage better and he is lost.  I don't know that he will ever progress beyond the limitations he currently has with reading a defense......but I certainly don't have the patience to wait years to see it.  I'm sure Bowles and McGM don't have much either.

One thing is for sure.......whatever fate awaits Geno, it will be merit based alone.  

I agree with all of that.

hobson54 wrote:

GratefulJet wrote:If Glennon can't start for the worst team in the NFL, why on earth would we want him?

it seems people think other people's crap is better than our crap.  i guess it's somewhat a derivation of the grass is always greener...

Seaver wrote:

NYJETSDAN16 wrote:

NickSINYC wrote:Brian Costello @BrianCoz  ·  1m 1 minute ago
Former Jets QB coach rips Geno Smith: His play 'killed us' #nyj: http://nyp.st/1sZAUms  via @nypost

And that's coming from a coach that worked with him.  So much a coach can do if the QB just doesn't get it.

again it comes down to football IQ.........some teams/scouts get it...some don't......you'll see some dumbass team draft UCLA-Rod Hundley and think he will be a top flight NFL QB.  He just doesn't get it.

Geno has never lacked for physical tools........it's between his ears on the field that lacks.  The problem that I see is that some get blinded by the physical tools and think the mental is improving when in fact it is not always the case.  Take the last game, Geno was never pressured - he didn't have to fire up the brain to make a hurried decision.  His first reads were winning their battles.  He was playing a simple game of catch.  Go to some better defenses that hide coverage better and he is lost.  I don't know that he will ever progress beyond the limitations he currently has with reading a defense......but I certainly don't have the patience to wait years to see it.  I'm sure Bowles and McGM don't have much either.

One thing is for sure.......whatever fate awaits Geno, it will be merit based alone.  

hobson54 wrote:

GratefulJet wrote:If Glennon can't start for the worst team in the NFL, why on earth would we want him?

it seems people think other people's crap is better than our crap.  i guess it's somewhat a derivation of the grass is always greener...

Sarge wrote:When Geno sucks it's all on him, when he plays well, the defense was horrible and any stiff could have done well against them

NYJETSDAN16 wrote:

hobson54 wrote:

GratefulJet wrote:If Glennon can't start for the worst team in the NFL, why on earth would we want him?

it seems people think other people's crap is better than our crap.  i guess it's somewhat a derivation of the grass is always greener...

I'am sure some Packer fans said the same thing when Green Bay traded a 1st rounder to the falcons for some bum named Brett Favre. 

GratefulJet wrote:Nick Foles is drawing interest around the league from teams who think Kelly might want to trade him to accumulate the draft chips to trade up to draft Mariota. The article linked below doesn't speculate on what it might cost to land Foles, but does speculate that the Rams, who own the 10th pick in the draft, might have interest. Presumably the Jets, with the 6th pick, would have plenty of ammo to make the trade, and the real question there would be what else the Jets would get back besides Foles if they gave up their 1st rounder.  The Eagles pick 20th: is that pick plus Foles in exchange for the Jets' 6th overall pick a reasonable deal?  Nick, you're the resident Nick Foles fan. Do you make that trade?

Several teams, including Rams, are ready to make a deal for Foles

NickSINYC wrote:I just wanted to add I would feel comfortable going into next season with a mix of Foles, Smith and a mid to late pick of someone like a Bryan Bennett at QB.

Superman55 wrote:

NickSINYC wrote:I just wanted to add I would feel comfortable going into next season with a mix of Foles, Smith and a mid to late pick of someone like a Bryan Bennett at QB.

Me too.  Foles can be like Kerry Collins and Bledsoe who both got their teams to the super bowl; hell, maybe even a little like Flacco.  i wouldn't want to rely on them to win a game by themselves, any of them, but they can on any given Sunday.  I think with the right supporting cast, you can win with Foles.    Bradford would still be my top choice because I think he is a very smart, high football IQ QB, but Foles would be my option 2 heading into the off season.  

For the record, I like Bradford and Foles more than anyone in the draft class by a wide margin.

NickSINYC wrote:

Superman55 wrote:

NickSINYC wrote:I just wanted to add I would feel comfortable going into next season with a mix of Foles, Smith and a mid to late pick of someone like a Bryan Bennett at QB.

Me too.  Foles can be like Kerry Collins and Bledsoe who both got their teams to the super bowl; hell, maybe even a little like Flacco.  i wouldn't want to rely on them to win a game by themselves, any of them, but they can on any given Sunday.  I think with the right supporting cast, you can win with Foles.    Bradford would still be my top choice because I think he is a very smart, high football IQ QB, but Foles would be my option 2 heading into the off season.  

For the record, I like Bradford and Foles more than anyone in the draft class by a wide margin.

I like Bradford also but I have him slotted 2nd to Foles. I would be very happy if we could land either.

GratefulJet wrote:Well, let's see what Maccagnan has up his sleeve. I am kind of expecting some action from him on the trade front. I don't think he's going into the season with the status quo at QB.

Blindsidebrick wrote:

GratefulJet wrote:Well, let's see what Maccagnan has up his sleeve. I am kind of expecting some action from him on the trade front. I don't think he's going into the season with the status quo at QB.

It's hard to believe that Geno Smith and Matt Simms will be the main QB's on our roster in 2015. Something's gonna happen, whether it's Fitzpatrick becoming available, a trade for someone (Foles for me, at the right price), or a high-mid round draft pick.