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    Post by NYJETSDAN16 Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:07

    SackExchange wrote:Changes are coming. Have to be.

    Rex is gone. I doubt Geno can ever win back the trust of the team. Still in need of a true #1 WR (the rest of the crew is set up...Decker is a solid #2, Kerley a #3, Salas #4). RBs are fine. May need a guard, as the line has been inconsistent. Desperately need a CB opposite Milliner.

    There are a lot of bright sides on this roster. But a team leading the league in both sacks and run defense should not be this bad.

    Excellent points Sack.
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    Post by football51 Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:09

    Vick is coming in for the 2nd half. Now, it's hard to complete passes when you're running for your life like Smith was. Johnson's fumble was putrid, and the penalties are still a killer.
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    Post by SackExchange Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:09

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    Lakerfan1980 wrote:Vick will mess up what the Jets are trying to do in 2016

    This is what i don't understand (dont take this the wrong way, not directing it on you at all,  i just see this alot).  Some state why put Vick in?
    To see if we can win games. The game is too fast with Geno right now.  There is constant talk about building for the future.  We've been re-building 40 years plus since our last championship. If that's the case, we've re-built  Atlantis.
    This offense has playmakers. We can win with the team we have, but it's not all on Geno i get that, but it's time to see if Mike can give us something to keep us competetive & relevant.

    No, this offense doesn't really have playmakers.

    That said, I doubt Geno can recover from this. I'd pull him for the rest of this game.

    IF the Pats lose tonight, start Vick next game. You'd only be one game back of them, and they're the only real competition. If it's really only Geno, then the Jets will go on a big roll. If it's not just Geno, it doesn't matter.
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    Post by NickSINYC Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:09

    wow Vick will play
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    Post by Metjetgal Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:10

    They had to do this
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    Post by danfran Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:10

    NYJETSDAN16 wrote:We're down 21-0. Yes the defense has been putrid.  The offense hasn't helped the cause either having multiple 3 & outs.
    I ask this:  What will Geno Smith learn from this? He's been in a number of blow outs already last year. The offense has no pulse whatsoever. Why not insert Michael Vick and just see what happends?
    Give Geno an actual rest from this fast paced NFL that is just consuming his young career.  Let him learn on the sidelines.

    Also, why is Vick reviewing previous plays on the sidelines and Geno just sitting on the bench not learning from past drives?  This is what i'am talking about.  There are issues with Geno's game that can be corrected slowly and reviewing past plays are one of them.

    I still believe we can win this game, the offense needs a change at the helm and this is the time to do it. The season hangs in the balance.
    Preaching to the choir. Maybe they can get a spark from Vick.
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    Post by SackExchange Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:11

    football51 wrote:Vick is coming in for the 2nd half. Now, it's hard to complete passes when you're running for your life like Smith was. Johnson's fumble was putrid, and the penalties are still a killer.

    The one thing Vick brings is improvisation. When protection breaks down, he can make things happen.

    But he's also a bigger turnover machine than Geno. Anyone expecting miracles in that regard will be disappointed.
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    Post by football51 Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:11

    Pace again. We lead the league in sacks, but we have just one int.
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    Post by Lakerfan1980 Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:11

    It's on the tape...pressure Geno up the middle and he has no idea what to do after that...no idea.
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    Post by jetkwondo Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:11

    D looks determined
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    Post by SackExchange Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:11

    Defense came out on fire. Maybe it's tied to the switch.
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    Post by Blindsidebrick Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:12

    I was wrong about this team. I thought they'd compete this year somewhere in the 8-8 to 10-6 level. But they're just not very good. Rex Ryan is getting closer to being fired. Geno isn't looking like the answer. Our season is almost over, and it's not even MID October.

    Depressing. I was really pumped up for this year. Now I feel like I've been duped.
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    Post by football51 Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:12

    Nice tackle by Milliner there. Hopefully he can move as well in his back pedal.
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    Post by soj Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:13

    NCgreen12 wrote:21 – 0.  Embarrassing.  Bet you Vicki starts second half.

    If he doesn't we know Rex is no longer calling the shots and its essentially over for him. This O is offensive and reminds me of all the bad teams in the past... they can ot do anything right PUNT, PUNT, PUNT, Punt, Fumble, Punt ... then and INT.... if it wasn't so sad it would be laughable.

    AS far as the coach who knows if he has lost the team... its dam had to coach players who can execute basic zones, block, tackle, or play 0 to12 yards off the receivers, etc. Plays are out of position in secondary ... if I was seeing it I wouldn't believe it.

    I blame this on FO, COACHES and Owner... this team is a Bang Head mess.
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    Post by Lakerfan1980 Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:13

    SackExchange wrote:Defense came out on fire. Maybe it's tied to the switch.

    Geno's play was having a negative effect on the team
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    Post by NYJETSDAN16 Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:14

    Blindsidebrick wrote:I was wrong about this team. I thought they'd compete this year somewhere in the 8-8 to 10-6 level. But they're just not very good. Rex Ryan is getting closer to being fired. Geno isn't looking like the answer. Our season is almost over, and it's not even MID October.

    Depressing. I was really pumped up for this year. Now I feel like I've been duped.


    Season is far from over my man.
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    Post by NickSINYC Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:14

    A big thing I want to see is if Geno mopes or participates on the sidelines
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    Post by jamesfyo123 Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:15

    This obviously is far from the heart of the Jets' problems, but I still can't get over that penalty called on Coples in the first half.
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    Post by SackExchange Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:15

    Tackling a RB high...penalty.

    Tackling a QB high...no penalty.

    Thank you for clarifying, NFL.
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    Post by NCgreen12 Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:18

    Three men rushing and the offensive line can't hold. This is a total collapse so far.
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    Post by Atljet60 Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:18

    I agree with Sack. Rex is gone. The team shows little discipline. They may stick together throughout it all but this is done.
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    Post by football51 Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:19

    jamesfyo123 wrote:This obviously is far from the heart of the Jets' problems, but I still can't get over that penalty called on Coples in the first half.




    Made worse by the fact that the officials near the play didn't throw the flag. It came from the opposite side of the field.
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    Post by Lakerfan1980 Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:19

    Anyone want to talk about how receivers aren't important? How TE's and backs can carrying passing game?
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    Post by Sarge Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:19

    Ok, we need another stop or even better a turnover
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    Post by SackExchange Sun 5 Oct 2014 - 18:20

    Atljet60 wrote:I agree with Sack. Rex is gone. The team shows little discipline. They may stick together throughout it all but this is done.

    They play to his personality. They play hard, balls out, but they also play undisciplined and stupid. They fly around out of control, making mental mistakes everywhere.

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