Seaver wrote:let's see it again next week when he doesn't have an axe to grind in TEN.
The early word is that he may be done for the season after injuring ankle late in game.
Seaver wrote:let's see it again next week when he doesn't have an axe to grind in TEN.
cysporsche wrote:I think I heard the Jets are putting Harvin on I.R. with a hurt ankle ? Besides his 10 million contract, my only concern is him staying healthy.
Go Jets...Cyborg
lnap23 wrote:Restructure his contract... pay him 5/6 mill tops at that price I'd want him back
Superman55 wrote:I can't see the Jets moving on from Harvin. Most people feel he's a perfect match for what Gaily does on offense and is I for a big year. Combine what Harvin does with bring in Spiller to go with Ivory and you have to like what Gaily will try to with these weapons. I expect Harvin back on his current deal and the Jets to hold off renegotiating until they need cap room for Richardson.
Old#15 wrote:Superman55 wrote:I can't see the Jets moving on from Harvin. Most people feel he's a perfect match for what Gaily does on offense and is I for a big year. Combine what Harvin does with bring in Spiller to go with Ivory and you have to like what Gaily will try to with these weapons. I expect Harvin back on his current deal and the Jets to hold off renegotiating until they need cap room for Richardson.
Assuming we keep Harvin, something I would like to see, does it make sense to invest in a premium pick on a WR like Cooper, White or Parker? A lot will depend on what we do in FA, but with Harvin's fragility and contract we could use someone to pair with Decker long term.
Old#15 wrote:Superman55 wrote:I can't see the Jets moving on from Harvin. Most people feel he's a perfect match for what Gaily does on offense and is I for a big year. Combine what Harvin does with bring in Spiller to go with Ivory and you have to like what Gaily will try to with these weapons. I expect Harvin back on his current deal and the Jets to hold off renegotiating until they need cap room for Richardson.
Assuming we keep Harvin, something I would like to see, does it make sense to invest in a premium pick on a WR like Cooper, White or Parker? A lot will depend on what we do in FA, but with Harvin's fragility and contract we could use someone to pair with Decker long term.
football51 wrote:Interesting reasoning using Macc's scouting background/valuing picks. From espnnewyork.com.
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@RichCimini If the jets do get an average-above average WR in free agency does that mark the end of Percy Harvin? #jetsmail
@RichCimini: Absolutely. An above-average wide receiver will fetch at least $6 million a year, so there's no way they'd pay big money to a free agent, Percy Harvin and Decker. Chances are, the Harvin decision will be made before the start of free agency. The logical move is to release him. He's a good player, but he's not worth $10.5 million and -- this is important -- a fourth-round draft pick. Right now, they owe the Seahawks a sixth-rounder, but it improves to a four if he's on the roster at a certain date. There's a considerable difference between a fourth-round pick and a sixth-rounder, and I can't see Mike Maccagnan, a former scout who treasures draft picks, signing off on the upgrade for an overpriced receiver. The Jets went 1-6 without Harvin; they went 2-6 with him. They can do better in free agency and the draft.
SackExchange wrote:I had forgotten about the pick escalation, but that makes a lot of sense. I'm not sure Harvin is worth both the $10.5MM and the fourth, especially with an uncertain QB situation.
I don't mind seeing Harvin go, but if he does, there had better be a move to bring in someone who can start across from Decker, pushing Kerley to #3.
SackExchange wrote:Right now, there are three options:
1. Keep Harvin, but on his current deal with no guaranteed money but a bigger annual salary.
2. Dump Harvin and keep the fourth, only losing the sixth rounder.
3. Restructure Harvin, giving him less of an annual cap hit but guaranteeing some of the money.
I would only do #3 if the team is incredibly aggressive, and needs the cap space to both make some big moves and extend the guys they currently have like Mo. Otherwise, I would do #1 if you don't have a contingency plan in place. If you have someone else at WR, another legit starter, then dump him.
Blindsidebrick wrote:SackExchange wrote:Right now, there are three options:
1. Keep Harvin, but on his current deal with no guaranteed money but a bigger annual salary.
2. Dump Harvin and keep the fourth, only losing the sixth rounder.
3. Restructure Harvin, giving him less of an annual cap hit but guaranteeing some of the money.
I would only do #3 if the team is incredibly aggressive, and needs the cap space to both make some big moves and extend the guys they currently have like Mo. Otherwise, I would do #1 if you don't have a contingency plan in place. If you have someone else at WR, another legit starter, then dump him.
I'm looking at Harvin as a decent fallback option if the team cannot land a high quality WR in FA, or somehow Amari Cooper lands in our laps at #6. If we can sign a player like Demaryius Thomas, or draft even a guy like DeVante Parker, I'd be willing to dump Harvin and lose a 6th rounder. That's over 10 million in cap relief.
But if FA comes up empty, and the Jets don't go WR in the first round, all bets are off. Bring back Harvin.
Superman55 wrote:Blindsidebrick wrote:SackExchange wrote:Right now, there are three options:
1. Keep Harvin, but on his current deal with no guaranteed money but a bigger annual salary.
2. Dump Harvin and keep the fourth, only losing the sixth rounder.
3. Restructure Harvin, giving him less of an annual cap hit but guaranteeing some of the money.
I would only do #3 if the team is incredibly aggressive, and needs the cap space to both make some big moves and extend the guys they currently have like Mo. Otherwise, I would do #1 if you don't have a contingency plan in place. If you have someone else at WR, another legit starter, then dump him.
I'm looking at Harvin as a decent fallback option if the team cannot land a high quality WR in FA, or somehow Amari Cooper lands in our laps at #6. If we can sign a player like Demaryius Thomas, or draft even a guy like DeVante Parker, I'd be willing to dump Harvin and lose a 6th rounder. That's over 10 million in cap relief.
But if FA comes up empty, and the Jets don't go WR in the first round, all bets are off. Bring back Harvin.
If you wait until you draft Parker or Cooper to dump harvin, we lose a 4th rounder, not a 6th rounder...
IMO, Jets will spend the first 9 days of free agency seeing if they can get Thomas or Dez Bryant...maybe Torrey Smith, if no on all 3, they keep harvin and Cooper, White, and Parker are off the table rd 1.
"The key date is March 19.
If Harvin remains on the Jets' roster after 4 p.m. on the 10th day of the league year (March 19), the Jets must give their fourth-round draft pick to the Seahawks. If the Jets release him before then, they owe the Seahawks a sixth-round choice.
The Jets were smart to make it March 19. Two reasons:
It gives them nine days to explore wide-receiver options in free agency. If they find a better player than Harvin, they can sign that player, cut Harvin and retain their fourth-round pick. The date also gives them leverage in any renegotiation talks with Harvin. If the Jets want to re-work his deal and he declines, the team can keep him until March 18, meaning he'd miss the first wave of free agency -- when the big money is doled out.
If the Jets keep Harvin on the roster beyond the deadline, it doesn't guarantee his $10.5-million base salary and it wouldn't preclude them from cutting him at a later date. But looking at it from a practical standpoint, it wouldn't make sense to dump a player after committing a fourth-round pick. "
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/49076/jets-face-march-19-deadline-on-percy-harvin-decision
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