Jets organization frustrated with 2014 offseason

Metjetgal wrote:He screwed up the CB situation badly. Golden Tate across from Decker would of been nice.

Metjetgal wrote:He screwed up the CB situation badly. Golden Tate across from Decker would of been nice.

SackExchange wrote:

Metjetgal wrote:He screwed up the CB situation badly. Golden Tate across from Decker would of been nice.

The draft had a good number of WRs available. I don't blame them for addressing other needs, such as TE and S, but a CB in FA and a potential impact WR in the draft would have made a lot more difference.

That said, we don't know yet what we have in McDougle or Shaq Evans.

Superman55 wrote:

SackExchange wrote:

Metjetgal wrote:He screwed up the CB situation badly. Golden Tate across from Decker would of been nice.

The draft had a good number of WRs available. I don't blame them for addressing other needs, such as TE and S, but a CB in FA and a potential impact WR in the draft would have made a lot more difference.

That said, we don't know yet what we have in McDougle or Shaq Evans.

...or drafting Jalen Saunders over a WR prospect like Bruce Ellington...when Saunders only value is returning punts and/or kicks...and he's inactive because he fumbles punts and kicks...kind of a miss...

Metjetgal wrote:He screwed up the CB situation badly. Golden Tate across from Decker would of been nice.

Superman55 wrote:

SackExchange wrote:

Metjetgal wrote:He screwed up the CB situation badly. Golden Tate across from Decker would of been nice.

The draft had a good number of WRs available. I don't blame them for addressing other needs, such as TE and S, but a CB in FA and a potential impact WR in the draft would have made a lot more difference.

That said, we don't know yet what we have in McDougle or Shaq Evans.

...or drafting Jalen Saunders over a WR prospect like Bruce Ellington...when Saunders only value is returning punts and/or kicks...and he's inactive because he fumbles punts and kicks...kind of a miss...

Superman55 wrote:

Metjetgal wrote:He screwed up the CB situation badly. Golden Tate across from Decker would of been nice.

Golden Tate, DJax, Emmanuel Sanders, Jeremy Maclin, Riley Cooper, Hakeem Nicks, Darren Sproles, or Andre Roberts would have been fine as a #2 opposite Decker...not just Tate...just saying...

hobson54 wrote:

Superman55 wrote:

SackExchange wrote:

Metjetgal wrote:He screwed up the CB situation badly. Golden Tate across from Decker would of been nice.

The draft had a good number of WRs available. I don't blame them for addressing other needs, such as TE and S, but a CB in FA and a potential impact WR in the draft would have made a lot more difference.

That said, we don't know yet what we have in McDougle or Shaq Evans.

...or drafting Jalen Saunders over a WR prospect like Bruce Ellington...when Saunders only value is returning punts and/or kicks...and he's inactive because he fumbles punts and kicks...kind of a miss...

yup, Ellington is really lighting up the league as a receiver.  I mean he has all of 2 targets and 0 catches on the year.  

if you are gonna complain, at least pick a WR who has actually caught a pass this year...

Superman55 wrote:

hobson54 wrote:

Superman55 wrote:

SackExchange wrote:

Metjetgal wrote:He screwed up the CB situation badly. Golden Tate across from Decker would of been nice.

The draft had a good number of WRs available. I don't blame them for addressing other needs, such as TE and S, but a CB in FA and a potential impact WR in the draft would have made a lot more difference.

That said, we don't know yet what we have in McDougle or Shaq Evans.

...or drafting Jalen Saunders over a WR prospect like Bruce Ellington...when Saunders only value is returning punts and/or kicks...and he's inactive because he fumbles punts and kicks...kind of a miss...

yup, Ellington is really lighting up the league as a receiver.  I mean he has all of 2 targets and 0 catches on the year.  

if you are gonna complain, at least pick a WR who has actually caught a pass this year...

Wow, how did Lamar Woodley do as a rookie?  Bruce Ellington, like MonCreif, had a very impressive camp and preseason.

"49ers fourth-round WR Bruce Ellington caught three passes for 35 yards in Thursday night's preseason opener.
He added two kickoffs for 62 yards. Ellington doesn't quite project as a fantasy asset long term, but his quickness and speed stood out on high-percentage pass routes against the Ravens. He's in the mix for Niners No. 4 receiver duties."

Its about a guy being coachable and having WR skills that can be developed...Ellington has amazing skill sets, can return, and can be value added to the WR core (note he's only playing behind Crabtree, Boldin, and Stevie Johnson...all free agents this March...like Nicks and Wayne in front of Moncreif).

However, explain to me how good cutting a rookie WR after 4 weeks looks, again.  Explain that to me?  I know Idzik can do no wrong in your eyes, like most people here, but if you cut a WR after 4 games you drafted in the 4th rd or higher...something is wrong, based on my first point, "Its about a guy being coachable and having WR skills that can be developed...Ellington has amazing skill sets, can return, and can be value added to the WR core..."

Not sure if you saw SC much last year, but the kid can play, IMO.

Superman55 wrote:

hobson54 wrote:

Superman55 wrote:

SackExchange wrote:

Metjetgal wrote:He screwed up the CB situation badly. Golden Tate across from Decker would of been nice.

The draft had a good number of WRs available. I don't blame them for addressing other needs, such as TE and S, but a CB in FA and a potential impact WR in the draft would have made a lot more difference.

That said, we don't know yet what we have in McDougle or Shaq Evans.

...or drafting Jalen Saunders over a WR prospect like Bruce Ellington...when Saunders only value is returning punts and/or kicks...and he's inactive because he fumbles punts and kicks...kind of a miss...

yup, Ellington is really lighting up the league as a receiver.  I mean he has all of 2 targets and 0 catches on the year.  

if you are gonna complain, at least pick a WR who has actually caught a pass this year...

Wow, how did Lamar Woodley do as a rookie?  Bruce Ellington, like MonCreif, had a very impressive camp and preseason.

"49ers fourth-round WR Bruce Ellington caught three passes for 35 yards in Thursday night's preseason opener.
He added two kickoffs for 62 yards. Ellington doesn't quite project as a fantasy asset long term, but his quickness and speed stood out on high-percentage pass routes against the Ravens. He's in the mix for Niners No. 4 receiver duties."

Its about a guy being coachable and having WR skills that can be developed...Ellington has amazing skill sets, can return, and can be value added to the WR core (note he's only playing behind Crabtree, Boldin, and Stevie Johnson...all free agents this March...like Nicks and Wayne in front of Moncreif).

However, explain to me how good cutting a rookie WR after 4 weeks looks, again.  Explain that to me?  I know Idzik can do no wrong in your eyes, like most people here, but if you cut a WR after 4 games you drafted in the 4th rd or higher...something is wrong, based on my first point, "Its about a guy being coachable and having WR skills that can be developed...Ellington has amazing skill sets, can return, and can be value added to the WR core..."

Not sure if you saw SC much last year, but the kid can play, IMO.

NYJETSDAN16 wrote:

Superman55 wrote:

hobson54 wrote:

Superman55 wrote:

SackExchange wrote:

Metjetgal wrote:He screwed up the CB situation badly. Golden Tate across from Decker would of been nice.

The draft had a good number of WRs available. I don't blame them for addressing other needs, such as TE and S, but a CB in FA and a potential impact WR in the draft would have made a lot more difference.

That said, we don't know yet what we have in McDougle or Shaq Evans.

...or drafting Jalen Saunders over a WR prospect like Bruce Ellington...when Saunders only value is returning punts and/or kicks...and he's inactive because he fumbles punts and kicks...kind of a miss...

yup, Ellington is really lighting up the league as a receiver.  I mean he has all of 2 targets and 0 catches on the year.  

if you are gonna complain, at least pick a WR who has actually caught a pass this year...

Wow, how did Lamar Woodley do as a rookie?  Bruce Ellington, like MonCreif, had a very impressive camp and preseason.

"49ers fourth-round WR Bruce Ellington caught three passes for 35 yards in Thursday night's preseason opener.
He added two kickoffs for 62 yards. Ellington doesn't quite project as a fantasy asset long term, but his quickness and speed stood out on high-percentage pass routes against the Ravens. He's in the mix for Niners No. 4 receiver duties."

Its about a guy being coachable and having WR skills that can be developed...Ellington has amazing skill sets, can return, and can be value added to the WR core (note he's only playing behind Crabtree, Boldin, and Stevie Johnson...all free agents this March...like Nicks and Wayne in front of Moncreif).

However, explain to me how good cutting a rookie WR after 4 weeks looks, again.  Explain that to me?  I know Idzik can do no wrong in your eyes, like most people here, but if you cut a WR after 4 games you drafted in the 4th rd or higher...something is wrong, based on my first point, "Its about a guy being coachable and having WR skills that can be developed...Ellington has amazing skill sets, can return, and can be value added to the WR core..."

Not sure if you saw SC much last year, but the kid can play, IMO.

So funny how 55 rips Idzik but hasn't even said anything about how horrible Geno has been so far.  You do know that Idzik drafted your favorite QB in the whole wide world in Geno, right?

hobson54 wrote:

Superman55 wrote:

hobson54 wrote:

Superman55 wrote:

SackExchange wrote:

Metjetgal wrote:He screwed up the CB situation badly. Golden Tate across from Decker would of been nice.

The draft had a good number of WRs available. I don't blame them for addressing other needs, such as TE and S, but a CB in FA and a potential impact WR in the draft would have made a lot more difference.

That said, we don't know yet what we have in McDougle or Shaq Evans.

...or drafting Jalen Saunders over a WR prospect like Bruce Ellington...when Saunders only value is returning punts and/or kicks...and he's inactive because he fumbles punts and kicks...kind of a miss...

yup, Ellington is really lighting up the league as a receiver.  I mean he has all of 2 targets and 0 catches on the year.  

if you are gonna complain, at least pick a WR who has actually caught a pass this year...

Wow, how did Lamar Woodley do as a rookie?  Bruce Ellington, like MonCreif, had a very impressive camp and preseason.

"49ers fourth-round WR Bruce Ellington caught three passes for 35 yards in Thursday night's preseason opener.
He added two kickoffs for 62 yards. Ellington doesn't quite project as a fantasy asset long term, but his quickness and speed stood out on high-percentage pass routes against the Ravens. He's in the mix for Niners No. 4 receiver duties."

Its about a guy being coachable and having WR skills that can be developed...Ellington has amazing skill sets, can return, and can be value added to the WR core (note he's only playing behind Crabtree, Boldin, and Stevie Johnson...all free agents this March...like Nicks and Wayne in front of Moncreif).

However, explain to me how good cutting a rookie WR after 4 weeks looks, again.  Explain that to me?  I know Idzik can do no wrong in your eyes, like most people here, but if you cut a WR after 4 games you drafted in the 4th rd or higher...something is wrong, based on my first point, "Its about a guy being coachable and having WR skills that can be developed...Ellington has amazing skill sets, can return, and can be value added to the WR core..."

Not sure if you saw SC much last year, but the kid can play, IMO.

for the record, when the jets were on the clock in the 4th round on the pick we ultimately took saunders, i wanted ellington.  so i'm not knocking the guy.  but right now, he has proven nothing in the nfl.  he hasn't caught a pass, and is solely a return man.  so your comment about drafting a WR and not just a kick returner seemed odd considering you then mentioned a guy who is just a kick returner right now.

now you may say that eventually ellington will develop into a good WR.  that is possible.  then again, it is also possible saunders develops into a good WR.  right now, they are tied in career receptions - 0-0

hobson54 wrote:

Superman55 wrote:

Metjetgal wrote:He screwed up the CB situation badly. Golden Tate across from Decker would of been nice.

Golden Tate, DJax, Emmanuel Sanders, Jeremy Maclin, Riley Cooper, Hakeem Nicks, Darren Sproles, or Andre Roberts would have been fine as a #2 opposite Decker...not just Tate...just saying...

there are some good players on this list.  but other teams were interested in them, so we can't magically make them sign with the jets.  


DJax is a headcase that can't stay on the field.  he's had 1 good game, 1 great game, and 2 awful games this year.  not sure that is worth the $16 mil guaranteed he got (3yr/$24MM)

Sanders - why exactly would you sign to play with the jets and have geno smith throw to you when you can go to the broncos and play with manning?

Tate - solid player.  would have been happy with him.  but he signed with detroit (gets to play with stafford and across from megatron) before he visited anyone else.

Maclin - coming off injury.  decided to take 1 year deal with existing team in a system that should produce big numbers.  doubt he takes the same deal from the jets.

Nicks - coming off 2 injury-prone, disappointing years.  and on a team lighting up the scoreboard, he has 12 catches for 94 yards on the season.  doubt he's the difference between 1-3 and 3-1 or even 2-2

Riley Cooper - garbage player.  15 catches for 125 yards in 4 games in Chip Kelly's offense.

Darren Sproles - since when is a 5'6 man a #2 WR?

LIJETFAN wrote:

Superman55 wrote:

Metjetgal wrote:He screwed up the CB situation badly. Golden Tate across from Decker would of been nice.

Golden Tate, DJax, Emmanuel Sanders, Jeremy Maclin, Riley Cooper, Hakeem Nicks, Darren Sproles, or Andre Roberts would have been fine as a #2 opposite Decker...not just Tate...just saying...[/quote

Yup, that about covers the WR situation except for Steve Smith who is having a fantastic season in Baltimore.  There were players out there to be had.  There were players to be drafted too.    Shaq Evans might become an interesting player one day, probably a back up, but he's on IR, that's no help.  

CBs - I don't know what I can say that hasn't already been said.  Comedy of errors and it might have started with Milliner.  

cysporsche wrote:The only frustration I have right now is the terrible fan base. The Jets Insider board is totally out of control and filled with hate, the fans @ the games calling Geno & other Jet players names, is not going to help the Jets win.

Big Mo is pissed off @ the fans, and he's facing a new contract. Why would he want to stay here ?

I'm also frustrated with all the "arm chair GM's", sitting on their couch @ home. Hind-site being 20/20, it's easy to sit back now and slam Idzik or Rex, for everything not going their way. It is what it is, deal with it.

I'm trying to remain positive, and wish a few of my Jet brother's & sister's would do the same.

Go Jets...Cyborg

SackExchange wrote:Every thread, every post, has to be whining about benching Geno.

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