Seaver wrote:if available, I'd take a shot at Ryan Fitzpatrick. Hell, I'd consider Matt Schaub.
Don't laugh, but I would give Matt Moore a look.
Seaver wrote:if available, I'd take a shot at Ryan Fitzpatrick. Hell, I'd consider Matt Schaub.
cysporsche wrote:I have not read above, I was lazy and hit reply. I think we need to hold onto Geno to compete. One thing Geno has over most other QB's is his God given foot speed, he is a great athlete, and has a cannon of an arm.
I think the game is slowing down for Geno, and he's not as afraid to stand in the pocket with the 1st wave of pass rushers. He needs to plant his feet after he steps into the pocket, as he's reading his options, then chuck it !
I want Geno back next year to compete for a starting job.
Go Jets...Cyborg
The Wicker Man wrote:Seaver wrote:if available, I'd take a shot at Ryan Fitzpatrick. Hell, I'd consider Matt Schaub.
Don't laugh, but I would give Matt Moore a look.
JB, everyone wants competition brought in through free agency and the draft. I think what you're reading is that some think he can be a viable back-up. I don't think anyone wants to just hand him the keys next year.JohnnyBaseball wrote:I can't believe what I'm hearing! You guys really think that Geno played well enough yesterday to warrant getting another chance next year? I definitely don't. He has 10 touchdowns this year. Is that really good enough? No games with more than 2 touchdowns. Only three games this season with more touchdowns than interceptions.
How about October 26 against the Bills? 2 out of 8 for a grand total of 5 yards! With three interceptions!
October 5 against San Diego? 4 out of 12 for 27 yards, one interception.
How about December 1 against the Dolphins? 7 out of 13 for 65 yards, no touchdowns, one interception.
Those are all games the team lost. We want to continue handing the ball to this guy? Why? The amount of improvement that would have to occur before Geno would even be a middle of the road QB is so great that there's virtually no chance whatsoever that he becomes a top 10 QB, which is what you actually need to be a good football team year in and year out.
At the very least, we need someone who can hit the long pass when it is open, which Geno has proven on multiple occasions that he cannot.
The Wicker Man wrote:
JB, everyone wants competition brought in through free agency and the draft. I think what you're reading is that some think he can be a viable back-up. I don't think anyone wants to just hand him the keys next year.
Jetski wrote:NYJETSDAN16 wrote:SackExchange wrote:Geno is basically Sanchez, with a lesser team around him. He had a pretty rough first year but with enough flashes to provide hope. His second year was marginally better in terms of quantifiables, but not enough to really offer long-term hope.
He may be serviceable in the right system, the way Sanchez has become, but he will never be the guy. And if the Jets stick with him, it would be further evidence of a franchise that does not learn from its mistakes.
You, 55 and the rest of this well rspected board know very well my stance on Geno Smith well before the season started.
I couldn't agree more on how you stated what Geno is. He will be a career back up at best. What he demonstrated today is the pure definition of "FOOLS GOLD". He steps up when there really isn't any pressure whatsoever. As he did late last year.
He got us all thinking he "MIGHT BE IMPROVING". In fact, as opposed as i was against him starting this season, i concede to those such as yourself who stated let him play it out to see what we have. I wanted Vick, but in retrospect, it would have impeded the organization to see what they had in Geno Smith.
It's time ladies and gentlement to move on from Geno. I'am sure next year Geno will still be on the roster and will show "flashes" as he did in the preseason and early couple of games, until he unravels into what he really is, a mediocre signal caller.
Jets fans, be prepared to hear the same thing from Geno next year. "He looks more mature" He seems to get it" "He's been hitting the playbook hard", "He's coming in to prove his case". All this none sense IMHO means nothing because we heard it before with Mark. As Sack eluded to, Geno is the same exact player. We need to upgrade this position.
Woody Johnson knows he has to make some executive decisons in order to right this ship. The team has a little bit under $50 mil under the cap. Free agents will be brought in to fill the much needed voids as it was in the 2008 which became our backbone for Rex's teams when he took over in '09. In saying so, i would not be in the least surprised if Woody presses the new GM to trade 2 to 3 1st round picks in order to move up to the #1 overall draft pick in order to get Marcus Mariota.
Of course that would divide the fan base as many want to keep those picks yet others want a franchise QB that we've lacked for so long. The past three 1st round picks have been very well below average at best with the exception of the Revis deal in which we got Sheldon.
I'am in no way expecting a low key off season in 2015.
I am trying to understand why you and so many other fans reject the notion of a young QB developing and improving incrementally. The Andrew Lucks and Russell Wilsons are very much the exceptions, most young QBs take time to learn the game and develop, especially when it comes to reading defenses. It usually takes two to three seasons. It makes me crazy, this notion that if Geno doesn't have a perfect game, he sucks. Watch the game film from yesterday with an open mind and it will be impossible not to see the signs of improvement, and it has nothing to do with Geno's numbers; Geno is doing a FAR better job with his progressions, a far better job of not locking onto one receiver, a far better job of pocket awareness and movement. That does not mean that he is perfect in any of those areas, yes, he still makes mistakes - but he is improving, so how on earth can you be so certain less than two seasons into his career that his ceiling is a mediocre QB? He's got the arm strength and athleticism, the foot speed and competitiveness. And resilience; if you think about it, it is really impressive that after he was so awful, especially in that game vs. the Bills with three horrible interceptions, he has been able to bounce back and play smarter and with confidence. I see no reason that with adequate time to develop he can't become a really good QB in this league. I could see going for Mariota, because he looks extraordinary, but short of that, I'd much rather that the Jets focus on filling other holes, like OL and CB.
JohnnyBaseball wrote:I can't believe what I'm hearing! You guys really think that Geno played well enough yesterday to warrant getting another chance next year? I definitely don't. He has 10 touchdowns this year. Is that really good enough? No games with more than 2 touchdowns. Only three games this season with more touchdowns than interceptions.
How about October 26 against the Bills? 2 out of 8 for a grand total of 5 yards! With three interceptions!
October 5 against San Diego? 4 out of 12 for 27 yards, one interception.
How about December 1 against the Dolphins? 7 out of 13 for 65 yards, no touchdowns, one interception.
Those are all games the team lost. We want to continue handing the ball to this guy? Why? The amount of improvement that would have to occur before Geno would even be a middle of the road QB is so great that there's virtually no chance whatsoever that he becomes a top 10 QB, which is what you actually need to be a good football team year in and year out.
At the very least, we need someone who can hit the long pass when it is open, which Geno has proven on multiple occasions that he cannot.
NYJETSDAN16 wrote:Jetski wrote:NYJETSDAN16 wrote:SackExchange wrote:Geno is basically Sanchez, with a lesser team around him. He had a pretty rough first year but with enough flashes to provide hope. His second year was marginally better in terms of quantifiables, but not enough to really offer long-term hope.
He may be serviceable in the right system, the way Sanchez has become, but he will never be the guy. And if the Jets stick with him, it would be further evidence of a franchise that does not learn from its mistakes.
You, 55 and the rest of this well rspected board know very well my stance on Geno Smith well before the season started.
I couldn't agree more on how you stated what Geno is. He will be a career back up at best. What he demonstrated today is the pure definition of "FOOLS GOLD". He steps up when there really isn't any pressure whatsoever. As he did late last year.
He got us all thinking he "MIGHT BE IMPROVING". In fact, as opposed as i was against him starting this season, i concede to those such as yourself who stated let him play it out to see what we have. I wanted Vick, but in retrospect, it would have impeded the organization to see what they had in Geno Smith.
It's time ladies and gentlement to move on from Geno. I'am sure next year Geno will still be on the roster and will show "flashes" as he did in the preseason and early couple of games, until he unravels into what he really is, a mediocre signal caller.
Jets fans, be prepared to hear the same thing from Geno next year. "He looks more mature" He seems to get it" "He's been hitting the playbook hard", "He's coming in to prove his case". All this none sense IMHO means nothing because we heard it before with Mark. As Sack eluded to, Geno is the same exact player. We need to upgrade this position.
Woody Johnson knows he has to make some executive decisons in order to right this ship. The team has a little bit under $50 mil under the cap. Free agents will be brought in to fill the much needed voids as it was in the 2008 which became our backbone for Rex's teams when he took over in '09. In saying so, i would not be in the least surprised if Woody presses the new GM to trade 2 to 3 1st round picks in order to move up to the #1 overall draft pick in order to get Marcus Mariota.
Of course that would divide the fan base as many want to keep those picks yet others want a franchise QB that we've lacked for so long. The past three 1st round picks have been very well below average at best with the exception of the Revis deal in which we got Sheldon.
I'am in no way expecting a low key off season in 2015.
I am trying to understand why you and so many other fans reject the notion of a young QB developing and improving incrementally. The Andrew Lucks and Russell Wilsons are very much the exceptions, most young QBs take time to learn the game and develop, especially when it comes to reading defenses. It usually takes two to three seasons. It makes me crazy, this notion that if Geno doesn't have a perfect game, he sucks. Watch the game film from yesterday with an open mind and it will be impossible not to see the signs of improvement, and it has nothing to do with Geno's numbers; Geno is doing a FAR better job with his progressions, a far better job of not locking onto one receiver, a far better job of pocket awareness and movement. That does not mean that he is perfect in any of those areas, yes, he still makes mistakes - but he is improving, so how on earth can you be so certain less than two seasons into his career that his ceiling is a mediocre QB? He's got the arm strength and athleticism, the foot speed and competitiveness. And resilience; if you think about it, it is really impressive that after he was so awful, especially in that game vs. the Bills with three horrible interceptions, he has been able to bounce back and play smarter and with confidence. I see no reason that with adequate time to develop he can't become a really good QB in this league. I could see going for Mariota, because he looks extraordinary, but short of that, I'd much rather that the Jets focus on filling other holes, like OL and CB.
i'am officially done. How can anyone still want to develop another David Klingler, Jamarcus Russell, Andre Ware, Browning Nagle clone???
1st it was because he had no supporting cast.
2nd we have to give him the entire 2014 season to properly be evaluated.
3rd it's gotta be the coaching staff
Is Woody really going to exhaust more than he has to on A 2ND ROUND PICK who is absolutely worthless & shown no improvement?
Idzik surrounded him with a quality group out there from his rookie year and he did, not only bad but horrendously worse week to week. The guy didn't show any improvement whatsoever with the likes of Harvin, Decker, CJ2K, and Amaro. AND WHAT WAS THE RESULT?
Here's the Result in case any one missed it: A 3-12 out come with a top five overall pick looming. This is a player who management has to be patient with?
I could understand if Geno was a 1st round top 10 pick. But let's be sincerely honest, the guy has been a complete flop. Week to week the guy has regressed. The games that are meaningless, I'm supposed to evaluate with an "open mind" and get fooled like the majority late last year did? Absolutely not. When the games mattered , he throws three interceptions. When the games mattered he fumbled. When he fails he gives his own fans the middle finger. When the games matter he misses a team meeting. When he plays horrible the whole season, he becomes delusional and states he had "PRO BOWL MOMENTS"?!!!!
The new GM and the new Head Coach will realize that their respective predecessors fate were determined by the play of an inept Quarterback named Geno Smith. I highly doubt they would choose that avenue to start their regime here in NY.
Geno smith, (scoff).
cysporsche wrote:Peace Jet brothers peace ! My point was I know Geno sucked this year, but call me an idiot or a Jet homer, but I saw improvement in his playing.
Yes, I want a better QB for the Jets, but I'd rather have Geno than Vick & Simms, or Brunell as back-ups. He's a great athlete, watch his foot work.
Go Jets...Cyborg
Jetski wrote:JohnnyBaseball wrote:I can't believe what I'm hearing! You guys really think that Geno played well enough yesterday to warrant getting another chance next year? I definitely don't. He has 10 touchdowns this year. Is that really good enough? No games with more than 2 touchdowns. Only three games this season with more touchdowns than interceptions.
How about October 26 against the Bills? 2 out of 8 for a grand total of 5 yards! With three interceptions!
October 5 against San Diego? 4 out of 12 for 27 yards, one interception.
How about December 1 against the Dolphins? 7 out of 13 for 65 yards, no touchdowns, one interception.
Those are all games the team lost. We want to continue handing the ball to this guy? Why? The amount of improvement that would have to occur before Geno would even be a middle of the road QB is so great that there's virtually no chance whatsoever that he becomes a top 10 QB, which is what you actually need to be a good football team year in and year out.
At the very least, we need someone who can hit the long pass when it is open, which Geno has proven on multiple occasions that he cannot.
Actually, last season (2013) Geno was seventh best in the entire NFL in completing deep passes, so he has proven that he can do it. And without intending to be offensive, I find your post just silly, citing bad games that he has had, as though for a second year QB that proves that he can't do better as he gains more experience. We all know about the awful games that Geno has had, so anyone who still wants to give him a chance - it is not because of his stats, it is because of the physical talent he has and the flashes he has shown. When Geno's footwork is good his accuracy is excellent, so if he improves in that area alone one could expect significantly better results. Better pass protection and a big fast WR wouldn't hurt either.
Jetski wrote:JohnnyBaseball wrote:I can't believe what I'm hearing! You guys really think that Geno played well enough yesterday to warrant getting another chance next year? I definitely don't. He has 10 touchdowns this year. Is that really good enough? No games with more than 2 touchdowns. Only three games this season with more touchdowns than interceptions.
How about October 26 against the Bills? 2 out of 8 for a grand total of 5 yards! With three interceptions!
October 5 against San Diego? 4 out of 12 for 27 yards, one interception.
How about December 1 against the Dolphins? 7 out of 13 for 65 yards, no touchdowns, one interception.
Those are all games the team lost. We want to continue handing the ball to this guy? Why? The amount of improvement that would have to occur before Geno would even be a middle of the road QB is so great that there's virtually no chance whatsoever that he becomes a top 10 QB, which is what you actually need to be a good football team year in and year out.
At the very least, we need someone who can hit the long pass when it is open, which Geno has proven on multiple occasions that he cannot.
Actually, last season (2013) Geno was seventh best in the entire NFL in completing deep passes, so he has proven that he can do it. And without intending to be offensive, I find your post just silly, citing bad games that he has had, as though for a second year QB that proves that he can't do better as he gains more experience. We all know about the awful games that Geno has had, so anyone who still wants to give him a chance - it is not because of his stats, it is because of the physical talent he has and the flashes he has shown. When Geno's footwork is good his accuracy is excellent, so if he improves in that area alone one could expect significantly better results. Better pass protection and a big fast WR wouldn't hurt either.
Seaver wrote:Jetski wrote:JohnnyBaseball wrote:I can't believe what I'm hearing! You guys really think that Geno played well enough yesterday to warrant getting another chance next year? I definitely don't. He has 10 touchdowns this year. Is that really good enough? No games with more than 2 touchdowns. Only three games this season with more touchdowns than interceptions.
How about October 26 against the Bills? 2 out of 8 for a grand total of 5 yards! With three interceptions!
October 5 against San Diego? 4 out of 12 for 27 yards, one interception.
How about December 1 against the Dolphins? 7 out of 13 for 65 yards, no touchdowns, one interception.
Those are all games the team lost. We want to continue handing the ball to this guy? Why? The amount of improvement that would have to occur before Geno would even be a middle of the road QB is so great that there's virtually no chance whatsoever that he becomes a top 10 QB, which is what you actually need to be a good football team year in and year out.
At the very least, we need someone who can hit the long pass when it is open, which Geno has proven on multiple occasions that he cannot.
Actually, last season (2013) Geno was seventh best in the entire NFL in completing deep passes, so he has proven that he can do it. And without intending to be offensive, I find your post just silly, citing bad games that he has had, as though for a second year QB that proves that he can't do better as he gains more experience. We all know about the awful games that Geno has had, so anyone who still wants to give him a chance - it is not because of his stats, it is because of the physical talent he has and the flashes he has shown. When Geno's footwork is good his accuracy is excellent, so if he improves in that area alone one could expect significantly better results. Better pass protection and a big fast WR wouldn't hurt either.
I can hit a few passes if given protection and better receivers. Physical attributes should NOT be yours or anyone's key defense item of Geno. That's how busts are drafted.......everyone swoons over the size/speed but neglect the GLARING red flags with football IQ. You can't play QB in the NFL at a consistent high level if you are football stupid. Not gonna happen. Is anyone more gifted than Jay Cutler? Yet we see that meathead week in week out make head scratching choices.
Geno does not cut it in the football IQ arena. He is destined to be a backup who will fool some HC down the road into giving him another shot. You can't just run a play - you have to understand the play - that way you can recognize when an audible is needed based on defensive alignment/personnel. You can't be a robot as so many of these kids are being taught to be these days.
Jetski wrote:NYJETSDAN16 wrote:Jetski wrote:NYJETSDAN16 wrote:SackExchange wrote:Geno is basically Sanchez, with a lesser team around him. He had a pretty rough first year but with enough flashes to provide hope. His second year was marginally better in terms of quantifiables, but not enough to really offer long-term hope.
He may be serviceable in the right system, the way Sanchez has become, but he will never be the guy. And if the Jets stick with him, it would be further evidence of a franchise that does not learn from its mistakes.
You, 55 and the rest of this well rspected board know very well my stance on Geno Smith well before the season started.
I couldn't agree more on how you stated what Geno is. He will be a career back up at best. What he demonstrated today is the pure definition of "FOOLS GOLD". He steps up when there really isn't any pressure whatsoever. As he did late last year.
He got us all thinking he "MIGHT BE IMPROVING". In fact, as opposed as i was against him starting this season, i concede to those such as yourself who stated let him play it out to see what we have. I wanted Vick, but in retrospect, it would have impeded the organization to see what they had in Geno Smith.
It's time ladies and gentlement to move on from Geno. I'am sure next year Geno will still be on the roster and will show "flashes" as he did in the preseason and early couple of games, until he unravels into what he really is, a mediocre signal caller.
Jets fans, be prepared to hear the same thing from Geno next year. "He looks more mature" He seems to get it" "He's been hitting the playbook hard", "He's coming in to prove his case". All this none sense IMHO means nothing because we heard it before with Mark. As Sack eluded to, Geno is the same exact player. We need to upgrade this position.
Woody Johnson knows he has to make some executive decisons in order to right this ship. The team has a little bit under $50 mil under the cap. Free agents will be brought in to fill the much needed voids as it was in the 2008 which became our backbone for Rex's teams when he took over in '09. In saying so, i would not be in the least surprised if Woody presses the new GM to trade 2 to 3 1st round picks in order to move up to the #1 overall draft pick in order to get Marcus Mariota.
Of course that would divide the fan base as many want to keep those picks yet others want a franchise QB that we've lacked for so long. The past three 1st round picks have been very well below average at best with the exception of the Revis deal in which we got Sheldon.
I'am in no way expecting a low key off season in 2015.
I am trying to understand why you and so many other fans reject the notion of a young QB developing and improving incrementally. The Andrew Lucks and Russell Wilsons are very much the exceptions, most young QBs take time to learn the game and develop, especially when it comes to reading defenses. It usually takes two to three seasons. It makes me crazy, this notion that if Geno doesn't have a perfect game, he sucks. Watch the game film from yesterday with an open mind and it will be impossible not to see the signs of improvement, and it has nothing to do with Geno's numbers; Geno is doing a FAR better job with his progressions, a far better job of not locking onto one receiver, a far better job of pocket awareness and movement. That does not mean that he is perfect in any of those areas, yes, he still makes mistakes - but he is improving, so how on earth can you be so certain less than two seasons into his career that his ceiling is a mediocre QB? He's got the arm strength and athleticism, the foot speed and competitiveness. And resilience; if you think about it, it is really impressive that after he was so awful, especially in that game vs. the Bills with three horrible interceptions, he has been able to bounce back and play smarter and with confidence. I see no reason that with adequate time to develop he can't become a really good QB in this league. I could see going for Mariota, because he looks extraordinary, but short of that, I'd much rather that the Jets focus on filling other holes, like OL and CB.
i'am officially done. How can anyone still want to develop another David Klingler, Jamarcus Russell, Andre Ware, Browning Nagle clone???
1st it was because he had no supporting cast.
2nd we have to give him the entire 2014 season to properly be evaluated.
3rd it's gotta be the coaching staff
Is Woody really going to exhaust more than he has to on A 2ND ROUND PICK who is absolutely worthless & shown no improvement?
Idzik surrounded him with a quality group out there from his rookie year and he did, not only bad but horrendously worse week to week. The guy didn't show any improvement whatsoever with the likes of Harvin, Decker, CJ2K, and Amaro. AND WHAT WAS THE RESULT?
Here's the Result in case any one missed it: A 3-12 out come with a top five overall pick looming. This is a player who management has to be patient with?
I could understand if Geno was a 1st round top 10 pick. But let's be sincerely honest, the guy has been a complete flop. Week to week the guy has regressed. The games that are meaningless, I'm supposed to evaluate with an "open mind" and get fooled like the majority late last year did? Absolutely not. When the games mattered , he throws three interceptions. When the games mattered he fumbled. When he fails he gives his own fans the middle finger. When the games matter he misses a team meeting. When he plays horrible the whole season, he becomes delusional and states he had "PRO BOWL MOMENTS"?!!!!
The new GM and the new Head Coach will realize that their respective predecessors fate were determined by the play of an inept Quarterback named Geno Smith. I highly doubt they would choose that avenue to start their regime here in NY.
Geno smith, (scoff).
Look, I think your post is highly emotional and I think that you present things in a misleading way - e.g. the missed meeting, for which he was not even disciplined by the team because it was a time zone related mixup that has happened to numerous players, and because he has generally been described as a hard worker who is typically first in the building and last out, who reviews tons of video on his own time, etc.. But mainly, I totally disagree with your assessment that he has shown no improvement, I think he has shown significant improvement in several key areas, like reading defenses and looking off his receiver, etc.. I have no problem with you being of the opinion that Geno sucks, but why not respect other people's right to disagree with you?
soj wrote:NYJETSDAN16... well said and accurate... anyone who thinks this guy is anything but at best a back-up should call me I ahve some land to sell in AZ..
NickSINYC wrote:I didn't like the Geno pick. I was starting to like what I saw this past off season but was let down as we went into the season. I am still not very high on Geno but I think I have seen enough from a 2nd year QB to think he deserves a chance to compete for a roster spot next year. He is still under contract and could provide depth while trying to improve his game which at his age is very possible. I still want a vet QB plus a high draft pick brought in to compete with him more likely ahead of him.It's not time to just cut bait with him.
lnap23 wrote:NickSINYC wrote:I didn't like the Geno pick. I was starting to like what I saw this past off season but was let down as we went into the season. I am still not very high on Geno but I think I have seen enough from a 2nd year QB to think he deserves a chance to compete for a roster spot next year. He is still under contract and could provide depth while trying to improve his game which at his age is very possible. I still want a vet QB plus a high draft pick brought in to compete with him more likely ahead of him.It's not time to just cut bait with him.
I agree. Geno has all the tools but he was raw... he needed 2 years behind a veteran... I know how much you wanted Sanchez gone but that injury really hurt us... A healthy Sanchez would have been fine last year.. He couldn't have done worse than Geno did and in all likely hood better. But the real problem with the injury was forcing Geno to start and not getting at least a year to just focus on his craft.
soj wrote:lnap23 wrote:NickSINYC wrote:I didn't like the Geno pick. I was starting to like what I saw this past off season but was let down as we went into the season. I am still not very high on Geno but I think I have seen enough from a 2nd year QB to think he deserves a chance to compete for a roster spot next year. He is still under contract and could provide depth while trying to improve his game which at his age is very possible. I still want a vet QB plus a high draft pick brought in to compete with him more likely ahead of him.It's not time to just cut bait with him.
I agree. Geno has all the tools but he was raw... he needed 2 years behind a veteran... I know how much you wanted Sanchez gone but that injury really hurt us... A healthy Sanchez would have been fine last year.. He couldn't have done worse than Geno did and in all likely hood better. But the real problem with the injury was forcing Geno to start and not getting at least a year to just focus on his craft.
Gents, with all due respect here are his stats...
Record as a starter = 10-18
2014 QBR 70.9 (only two worse)
INTs = 34
Fumbles = 6
Overall QBR = 68.4
Enough with potential and he has all the tools ...what you have seen and seem to continue to ignore is he is just plain bad.
soj wrote:lnap23 wrote:NickSINYC wrote:I didn't like the Geno pick. I was starting to like what I saw this past off season but was let down as we went into the season. I am still not very high on Geno but I think I have seen enough from a 2nd year QB to think he deserves a chance to compete for a roster spot next year. He is still under contract and could provide depth while trying to improve his game which at his age is very possible. I still want a vet QB plus a high draft pick brought in to compete with him more likely ahead of him.It's not time to just cut bait with him.
I agree. Geno has all the tools but he was raw... he needed 2 years behind a veteran... I know how much you wanted Sanchez gone but that injury really hurt us... A healthy Sanchez would have been fine last year.. He couldn't have done worse than Geno did and in all likely hood better. But the real problem with the injury was forcing Geno to start and not getting at least a year to just focus on his craft.
Gents, with all due respect here are his stats...
Record as a starter = 10-18
2014 QBR 70.9 (only two worse)
INTs = 34
Fumbles = 6
Overall QBR = 68.4
Enough with potential and he has all the tools ...what you have seen and seem to continue to ignore is he is just plain bad.
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