Geno Smith

Polishjetfan wrote:It shocks me how people do not see the pattern that's developed w this team. People have also ways been critical of Rex's ability to coach offense and much of that is justified. But people have also been critical of Sanchez, Vick, Tebow (which is obv justified IMO), and Sims. They have also been critical of Shotty, Sporano, and Marty.

IMO The reason anyone ever criticizes coaches and and play calling is because of a lack of talent. Players not named Decker or Amaro are not getting open because they just are not any good!!! Call whatever play u want, if the player sucks they will prob not be open. It's just that simple. This team has not had a single 1000 yrd capable wr on the squad since 2011 and no 1000 yrd wr seasons since 2008!!!

From what I have seen, Geno has not had any open wrs for the majority of the season and when he has had them he usually hits them as long as he has protection, which has also been lacking. Is it Geno's fault the recovers dropped 6 passes against the Lions? Is it his fault that he looks "scared" Bc no one is open so he has to choose to run, throw the ball away, or force it into a very small window?

Get another legit wr or 2 on this team and defenses will respect the pass more, making more room to run, open up space for underneath routs, and just get more open making Geno look like a real Qb. At this point defenses do not have to concede anything to our wrs Bc they all suck except decker.

Play calling because pretty easy when the team has guys that can actually play.

Polishjetfan wrote:It shocks me how people do not see the pattern that's developed w this team. People have also ways been critical of Rex's ability to coach offense and much of that is justified. But people have also been critical of Sanchez, Vick, Tebow (which is obv justified IMO), and Sims. They have also been critical of Shotty, Sporano, and Marty.

IMO The reason anyone ever criticizes coaches and and play calling is because of a lack of talent. Players not named Decker or Amaro are not getting open because they just are not any good!!! Call whatever play u want, if the player sucks they will prob not be open. It's just that simple. This team has not had a single 1000 yrd capable wr on the squad since 2011 and no 1000 yrd wr seasons since 2008!!!

From what I have seen, Geno has not had any open wrs for the majority of the season and when he has had them he usually hits them as long as he has protection, which has also been lacking. Is it Geno's fault the recovers dropped 6 passes against the Lions? Is it his fault that he looks "scared" Bc no one is open so he has to choose to run, throw the ball away, or force it into a very small window?

Get another legit wr or 2 on this team and defenses will respect the pass more, making more room to run, open up space for underneath routs, and just get more open making Geno look like a real Qb. At this point defenses do not have to concede anything to our wrs Bc they all suck except decker.

Play calling because pretty easy when the team has guys that can actually play.

football51 wrote:Then why was Sanchez still a bottom 5 qb with the likes of Edwards, Holmes, Cotchery, Keller, Thomas Jones, LT, Leon Washington, etc.? Play calling, talent at qb, and talent at skill positions all play a roll.



Also, Idzik inherited Kerley and Powell and nothing else. He's added Ivory, Amaro, and Decker who I think we can all agree we like. It takes time, because outside of the defensive line with Wilkerson & Snacks, Idzik didn't inherit too much in the way of young talent. He's had(and still remains) holes to fill.

WilliesDad wrote:If you watch the tape Dan, you'll see that a defender is coming right up the gut towards Geno on the conversion attempt.  So he had to rush it a bit.  Yes, it was not a great throw, but he made plenty of good to great throws last night.  Geno did not lose the game last night.  He almost won it for us.  You know who did lose the game for us?  The defense!! Especially Antonio Allen, who admitted that he turned to peek at TB on both scoring plays (the first and third ones), which allowed Ridley/Amendola to get behind him.

Who would you like to have back there Dan?  Sanchez?  Wasn't he your boy?  I know, let's just draft the next superstar QB.  It's just that easy!!  

WilliesDad wrote:If you watch the tape Dan, you'll see that a defender is coming right up the gut towards Geno on the conversion attempt.  So he had to rush it a bit.  Yes, it was not a great throw, but he made plenty of good to great throws last night.  Geno did not lose the game last night.  He almost won it for us.  You know who did lose the game for us?  The defense!! Especially Antonio Allen, who admitted that he turned to peek at TB on both scoring plays (the first and third ones), which allowed Ridley/Amendola to get behind him.

Who would you like to have back there Dan?  Sanchez?  Wasn't he your boy?  I know, let's just draft the next superstar QB.  It's just that easy!!  

NYJETSDAN16 wrote:

WilliesDad wrote:If you watch the tape Dan, you'll see that a defender is coming right up the gut towards Geno on the conversion attempt.  So he had to rush it a bit.  Yes, it was not a great throw, but he made plenty of good to great throws last night.  Geno did not lose the game last night.  He almost won it for us.  You know who did lose the game for us?  The defense!! Especially Antonio Allen, who admitted that he turned to peek at TB on both scoring plays (the first and third ones), which allowed Ridley/Amendola to get behind him.

Who would you like to have back there Dan?  Sanchez?  Wasn't he your boy?  I know, let's just draft the next superstar QB.  It's just that easy!!  

LMAO, Keep rooting for Geno my brother. If you feel good about the team today, by all means.

I feel fantastic because Geno is GUTLESS and for every loss, it inches closer to drafting Marcus Mariota.

Keep blaming other areas to cover up the huge deficiencies that Geno brings to the table. There is an enormous reason why we're 1-6.  QB play has a lot to do with it.

Oh, as far as you referencing Mark? Didn't you jump out of your seat when Sanchez hit Holmes for a TD vs NE in the 2010 AFCDG? Didn't you enjoy having Mark at the helm as he lead us to two AFCCG's & only one losing season with him being here in 5 seasons? Funny, we were never 1-6 with Mark, were we? I'am sure Mark was your boy as well, wasn't he?
Oh, that's right, let's place that to the side because probably in your mind, Geno is still the "GREAT NEXT THING".
There is no comparison between Mark and Geno.  Yet the best thing is that both ships have sailed far away.

Hypocrital at it's best.  Hysterical. Seems like some have been hit with far worse than a butt fumble.


There is no justification for 1-6.

NYJETSDAN16 wrote:

WilliesDad wrote:If you watch the tape Dan, you'll see that a defender is coming right up the gut towards Geno on the conversion attempt.  So he had to rush it a bit.  Yes, it was not a great throw, but he made plenty of good to great throws last night.  Geno did not lose the game last night.  He almost won it for us.  You know who did lose the game for us?  The defense!! Especially Antonio Allen, who admitted that he turned to peek at TB on both scoring plays (the first and third ones), which allowed Ridley/Amendola to get behind him.

Who would you like to have back there Dan?  Sanchez?  Wasn't he your boy?  I know, let's just draft the next superstar QB.  It's just that easy!!  

LMAO, Keep rooting for Geno my brother. If you feel good about the team today, by all means.

I feel fantastic because Geno is GUTLESS and for every loss, it inches closer to drafting Marcus Mariota.

Keep blaming other areas to cover up the huge deficiencies that Geno brings to the table. There is an enormous reason why we're 1-6.  QB play has a lot to do with it.

Oh, as far as you referencing Mark? Didn't you jump out of your seat when Sanchez hit Holmes for a TD vs NE in the 2010 AFCDG? Didn't you enjoy having Mark at the helm as he lead us to two AFCCG's & only one losing season with him being here in 5 seasons? Funny, we were never 1-6 with Mark, were we? I'am sure Mark was your boy as well, wasn't he?
Oh, that's right, let's place that to the side because probably in your mind, Geno is still the "GREAT NEXT THING".
There is no comparison between Mark and Geno.  Yet the best thing is that both ships have sailed far away.

Hypocrital at it's best.  Hysterical. Seems like some have been hit with far worse than a butt fumble.


There is no justification for 1-6.

football51 wrote:I've been reading a lot of draft sites already, and the general feeling is that as of now, a qb ISN'T worthy of a top 15 pick. Mariota is described as a project, and Winston has tons of off field baggage. Smith has 9 more starts to make this an easy decision and I'm hoping he does.

WilliesDad wrote:

NYJETSDAN16 wrote:

WilliesDad wrote:If you watch the tape Dan, you'll see that a defender is coming right up the gut towards Geno on the conversion attempt.  So he had to rush it a bit.  Yes, it was not a great throw, but he made plenty of good to great throws last night.  Geno did not lose the game last night.  He almost won it for us.  You know who did lose the game for us?  The defense!! Especially Antonio Allen, who admitted that he turned to peek at TB on both scoring plays (the first and third ones), which allowed Ridley/Amendola to get behind him.

Who would you like to have back there Dan?  Sanchez?  Wasn't he your boy?  I know, let's just draft the next superstar QB.  It's just that easy!!  

LMAO, Keep rooting for Geno my brother. If you feel good about the team today, by all means.

I feel fantastic because Geno is GUTLESS and for every loss, it inches closer to drafting Marcus Mariota.

Keep blaming other areas to cover up the huge deficiencies that Geno brings to the table. There is an enormous reason why we're 1-6.  QB play has a lot to do with it.

Oh, as far as you referencing Mark? Didn't you jump out of your seat when Sanchez hit Holmes for a TD vs NE in the 2010 AFCDG? Didn't you enjoy having Mark at the helm as he lead us to two AFCCG's & only one losing season with him being here in 5 seasons? Funny, we were never 1-6 with Mark, were we? I'am sure Mark was your boy as well, wasn't he?
Oh, that's right, let's place that to the side because probably in your mind, Geno is still the "GREAT NEXT THING".
There is no comparison between Mark and Geno.  Yet the best thing is that both ships have sailed far away.

Hypocrital at it's best.  Hysterical. Seems like some have been hit with far worse than a butt fumble.


There is no justification for 1-6.

You're right Dan, I did react the way I'm sure most of us fans reacted on the throw to Selftonio.  I bring up Sanchez because my belief is that you have been lamenting his loss for a while and have always represented on these boards (sorry, I have neither the time nor desire to comb through it all) that he was/is better than Geno.  And that is where we differ.  Yes, I liked Sanchez initially and pulled for him whenever he was in there - as any fan of a team would do, but I realized that he wasn't the answer a long time ago and have moved on from him - something that I am questioning if you have been able to do.  If I have misrepresented your feelings, please accept my apologies.  

I'm not sure if Geno is "the next great thing" but I am not ready to give up on him just yet.  The team's record is not all on him.  Just like Sanchez wasn't the main or sole reason we got to the AFCCG's.  

NYJETSDAN16 wrote:

WilliesDad wrote:

NYJETSDAN16 wrote:

WilliesDad wrote:If you watch the tape Dan, you'll see that a defender is coming right up the gut towards Geno on the conversion attempt.  So he had to rush it a bit.  Yes, it was not a great throw, but he made plenty of good to great throws last night.  Geno did not lose the game last night.  He almost won it for us.  You know who did lose the game for us?  The defense!! Especially Antonio Allen, who admitted that he turned to peek at TB on both scoring plays (the first and third ones), which allowed Ridley/Amendola to get behind him.

Who would you like to have back there Dan?  Sanchez?  Wasn't he your boy?  I know, let's just draft the next superstar QB.  It's just that easy!!  

LMAO, Keep rooting for Geno my brother. If you feel good about the team today, by all means.

I feel fantastic because Geno is GUTLESS and for every loss, it inches closer to drafting Marcus Mariota.

Keep blaming other areas to cover up the huge deficiencies that Geno brings to the table. There is an enormous reason why we're 1-6.  QB play has a lot to do with it.

Oh, as far as you referencing Mark? Didn't you jump out of your seat when Sanchez hit Holmes for a TD vs NE in the 2010 AFCDG? Didn't you enjoy having Mark at the helm as he lead us to two AFCCG's & only one losing season with him being here in 5 seasons? Funny, we were never 1-6 with Mark, were we? I'am sure Mark was your boy as well, wasn't he?
Oh, that's right, let's place that to the side because probably in your mind, Geno is still the "GREAT NEXT THING".
There is no comparison between Mark and Geno.  Yet the best thing is that both ships have sailed far away.

Hypocrital at it's best.  Hysterical. Seems like some have been hit with far worse than a butt fumble.


There is no justification for 1-6.

You're right Dan, I did react the way I'm sure most of us fans reacted on the throw to Selftonio.  I bring up Sanchez because my belief is that you have been lamenting his loss for a while and have always represented on these boards (sorry, I have neither the time nor desire to comb through it all) that he was/is better than Geno.  And that is where we differ.  Yes, I liked Sanchez initially and pulled for him whenever he was in there - as any fan of a team would do, but I realized that he wasn't the answer a long time ago and have moved on from him - something that I am questioning if you have been able to do.  If I have misrepresented your feelings, please accept my apologies.  

I'm not sure if Geno is "the next great thing" but I am not ready to give up on him just yet.  The team's record is not all on him.  Just like Sanchez wasn't the main or sole reason we got to the AFCCG's.  

With all due respect, are you willing to give Geno the 2015 campaign as well?

jamesfyo123 wrote:Geno definitely had a good game last night.

But having this game once every 7 from him is not good enough for a franchise qb.

WilliesDad wrote:

NYJETSDAN16 wrote:

WilliesDad wrote:

NYJETSDAN16 wrote:

WilliesDad wrote:If you watch the tape Dan, you'll see that a defender is coming right up the gut towards Geno on the conversion attempt.  So he had to rush it a bit.  Yes, it was not a great throw, but he made plenty of good to great throws last night.  Geno did not lose the game last night.  He almost won it for us.  You know who did lose the game for us?  The defense!! Especially Antonio Allen, who admitted that he turned to peek at TB on both scoring plays (the first and third ones), which allowed Ridley/Amendola to get behind him.

Who would you like to have back there Dan?  Sanchez?  Wasn't he your boy?  I know, let's just draft the next superstar QB.  It's just that easy!!  

LMAO, Keep rooting for Geno my brother. If you feel good about the team today, by all means.

I feel fantastic because Geno is GUTLESS and for every loss, it inches closer to drafting Marcus Mariota.

Keep blaming other areas to cover up the huge deficiencies that Geno brings to the table. There is an enormous reason why we're 1-6.  QB play has a lot to do with it.

Oh, as far as you referencing Mark? Didn't you jump out of your seat when Sanchez hit Holmes for a TD vs NE in the 2010 AFCDG? Didn't you enjoy having Mark at the helm as he lead us to two AFCCG's & only one losing season with him being here in 5 seasons? Funny, we were never 1-6 with Mark, were we? I'am sure Mark was your boy as well, wasn't he?
Oh, that's right, let's place that to the side because probably in your mind, Geno is still the "GREAT NEXT THING".
There is no comparison between Mark and Geno.  Yet the best thing is that both ships have sailed far away.

Hypocrital at it's best.  Hysterical. Seems like some have been hit with far worse than a butt fumble.


There is no justification for 1-6.

You're right Dan, I did react the way I'm sure most of us fans reacted on the throw to Selftonio.  I bring up Sanchez because my belief is that you have been lamenting his loss for a while and have always represented on these boards (sorry, I have neither the time nor desire to comb through it all) that he was/is better than Geno.  And that is where we differ.  Yes, I liked Sanchez initially and pulled for him whenever he was in there - as any fan of a team would do, but I realized that he wasn't the answer a long time ago and have moved on from him - something that I am questioning if you have been able to do.  If I have misrepresented your feelings, please accept my apologies.  

I'm not sure if Geno is "the next great thing" but I am not ready to give up on him just yet.  The team's record is not all on him.  Just like Sanchez wasn't the main or sole reason we got to the AFCCG's.  

With all due respect, are you willing to give Geno the 2015 campaign as well?

You know Dan, I don't know yet.  I want to see how he plays the rest of the year. I would like to think that 32 games is enough of a sample size to help determine how bad our need to bring another QB in via either the draft, ie:  How high a pick do we use, or FA: Where the question will be is how much do we have to pay for whatever is available - and will that guy be a better alternative than Geno.  Honestly, is there a QB who will be available that is a better option than Geno?   Most likely I would let him compete for the starter job with whoever comes in.  
Also, I admit that I am intrigued by Simms - always have been. I like his pedigree and the little bit we have seen.  But, I have to defer to the coaching staff.  If they don't think he's better than Vick or Geno, who am I to disagree.

I would like to bring in an established vet who could REALLY be a mentor to Geno, Simms or a rookie that we draft.

All well said. Now that we have Percy Harvin, Home run threat we've been lacking since ...EVER, we can assess Geno better.

SackExchange wrote:Not sure how anyone pins last night's loss on Geno, unless they are looking for reasons to bash him.