SackExchange wrote:Do we know he's clueless? Or has he just not had enough time?Seaver wrote:let's just say Idzik is clueless.......what's the point in seeing this madness going on for another 2 years?
I mean, if we're going to expect a GM, of all people, to get immediate dividends, we will never build a team. The only way a GM can get immediate dividends is through free agency and trades for veterans.
A head coach, it's fair to expect some uptick in play pretty immediately, whether it is in coaching up players or game management. But a GM is different. It's a much longer term situation.
So if every GM who comes to the Jets is going to be expected to win out of the gate, the team will never actually develop homegrown players. Fans want immediate results, but also love homegrown guys. In other words, fans want to have their cake and eat it, too.
you speak as if the past 3 GMs have been fired after a year or two of service. That's not the case. You are creating this aura of somebody hitting the panic button again and that nobody will work for the team. This is about Idzik. Actually, this may be more about Woody than anyone. If he is happy with a finance guy saving him money, fixing the cap, and flushing his headache Revis.......then he is likely going to be patient.
My problem is I don't see the progress on the football side. When you figure that ANY GM you go to great lengths to hire should get something right, you have to look beyond the obvious good moves to the more advanced moves a GM needs to make. For example..toss out 1st rd picks as some rallying cry for greatness.......I'd even go past the 2nd round. A good GM will mine players out of those middle rounds. 2 drafts in and who is shaping up as a legit contributor?
How did Idzik do assessing the needs of the secondary? OL? QB? Now while I will give some credit for getting Decker.........that was more about the money and the market for his wife to broaden her career than Idzik. He brought in a turnover/sack taking machine in Vick. Dmitri Patterson - needs no explanation. His RT just got schooled by Buffalo. What did he do at the end of camp to fortify DB? So he holds his precious salary cap - ignoring obvious needs/holes in secondary due to injury/craziness but decides he's all in on gadget player who costs$6-$7m to rent.
It's really not about making a case to fire Idzik.........he hasn't made a case to stay.