A New Community for Jets Fans
hobson54 wrote:looks like i picked a good time to be away from the board...
not much to add to this (or other) threads since i can't say i've been following the jets the last month or so, but just thought i'd say hi to all and figured this thread was as good as any to chime in
Welcome back just asking I have 6 weeks in the marriage pool how are thing going?hobson54 wrote:looks like i picked a good time to be away from the board...
not much to add to this (or other) threads since i can't say i've been following the jets the last month or so, but just thought i'd say hi to all and figured this thread was as good as any to chime in
just joking I hope the wedding went well and you had a great honeymoon
hobson54 wrote:looks like i picked a good time to be away from the board...
not much to add to this (or other) threads since i can't say i've been following the jets the last month or so, but just thought i'd say hi to all and figured this thread was as good as any to chime in
I think the Jets are good enough to win with a QB of Brees' talent level, or Rivers'.Blindsidebrick wrote:I think the point of this discussion, at least from my POV, is that the Jets have good enough talent to win, if only they had a QB of Brady's talent level. Speaking hypothetically, of course, if the Jets have Brady right now, even with the secondary the way it is, and with our current WR's, what is our record?
Probably closer to 7-3.
And John Idzik would look a lot better to fans than he does now. One player. One position. And we're not even talking about John Idzik. A 5th round draft pick who became the luck o' the Patriots is the difference. Don't believe me? Compare the rest of the Patriots roster to ours. Is there a big difference?
LIJETFAN wrote:Sack, I do agree that Brees would make this team better. But he would make almost every team in the league better. He's a HOF QB. Rivers, he runs hot and cold. I have never been a fan. Do I think the Jets would have a better record if he was the QB, probably. Do I think you can win a Super Bowl with him, not as sure.
I don't think this is a 10-11 win team based on talent. I think a better QB makes this an 7 or 8 win team this year given the schedule. In a year with an easier schedule, maybe. But there are too many holes on defense, special teams is average if that, and the OL needs to be upgraded in some spots.
Looking ahead - the two best players on the line are aging now. So they will start to decline. They can certainly still play and with better players around them, the line would be solid. The Jets need to upgrade QB, S, at least two CB spots ( even if you think Milliner can play, which I am not convinced of at this point) and if he can't three, OG in at least one spot and maybe two, and OLB with Pace aging as well. And there is no guarantee Harvin will be back, so we could be back to looking for a #1 receiver again. That's a lot of holes in the roster...
LIJETFAN wrote:Sack, I do agree that Brees would make this team better. But he would make almost every team in the league better. He's a HOF QB. Rivers, he runs hot and cold. I have never been a fan. Do I think the Jets would have a better record if he was the QB, probably. Do I think you can win a Super Bowl with him, not as sure.
I don't think this is a 10-11 win team based on talent. I think a better QB makes this an 7 or 8 win team this year given the schedule. In a year with an easier schedule, maybe. But there are too many holes on defense, special teams is average if that, and the OL needs to be upgraded in some spots.
Looking ahead - the two best players on the line are aging now. So they will start to decline. They can certainly still play and with better players around them, the line would be solid. The Jets need to upgrade QB, S, at least two CB spots ( even if you think Milliner can play, which I am not convinced of at this point) and if he can't three, OG in at least one spot and maybe two, and OLB with Pace aging as well. And there is no guarantee Harvin will be back, so we could be back to looking for a #1 receiver again. That's a lot of holes in the roster...
SackExchange wrote:I think the Jets are good enough to win with a QB of Brees' talent level, or Rivers'.Blindsidebrick wrote:I think the point of this discussion, at least from my POV, is that the Jets have good enough talent to win, if only they had a QB of Brady's talent level. Speaking hypothetically, of course, if the Jets have Brady right now, even with the secondary the way it is, and with our current WR's, what is our record?
Probably closer to 7-3.
And John Idzik would look a lot better to fans than he does now. One player. One position. And we're not even talking about John Idzik. A 5th round draft pick who became the luck o' the Patriots is the difference. Don't believe me? Compare the rest of the Patriots roster to ours. Is there a big difference?
The team around the QB (CBs aside) is pretty decent. Good enough to win. A slightly above average QB could make this a 10-11 win team.
NickSINYC wrote:I have come to the conclusion that this Idzik debate is going nowhere fast. Both sides are locked into their positions and no amount of debate will change anyone's opinion. I won't restate them because they have been posted in so many different threads already ad nauseam.
Only time will give us the correct answer if Idzik get retained we see how his plan plays out. Even if he gets fired we see what his 2 draft classes look like in two years.
JohnnyBaseball wrote:Just as a matter of philosophy, what would you be willing to trade for a franchise QB? Assuming this is within the rules, would you trade our entire 2015 draft for Andrew Luck? 2015 and 2016? Even more picks? Is there a point at which the Colts would agree to trade him? Obviously these aren't realistic scenarios, but I just wonder how people think about this question.
No luckier than Packers fans.cysporsche wrote:Speaking of Andrew Luck & the Colts, the Colts fans have to be the luckiest fans in the NFL. When they were done with Peyton Manning, they hand the ball to Andrew Luck. Geez....
I would trade all 7 picks for Andrew Luck, and NO the Colts would never trade him. The $money we still have under the cap could get us another CB, OLB & FS, and we have all the other pieces with a huge addition of Percy Harvin. The guy gives 100% on every play. He has a serious chip on his shoulder after the way the Seafish treated him. We are closer than most realize.
Go Jets...Cyborg
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