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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by The Wicker Man on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:45

    I think Jenny Dell likes me!
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by GratefulJet on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:46

    SackExchange wrote:
    Metjetgal wrote:
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    Metjetgal wrote:Milliner couldn't stay healthy in college. Then they draft a guy with a bad shoulder, let Cro walk, and sign a guy that's been on 30 teams in 2 seasons. Idzik looks so assinine.
    OK, a couple points.

    1. Valid critique of Milliner and his health.
    2. Blaming Idzik because the guy with a bad shoulder tore his knee is pretty creative.
    3. Cro looked shot last year, and honestly hasn't exactly torn it up this year.
    4. Patterson's problems were injuries. When he was healthy, he was stellar. Still, legit critique.

    So two of your four points are valid, and the other two are just finding inventive ways of bashing Idzik.

    2. Sometimes injury prone guys are just injury prone. See Milliner. Not a terrible pick, I'm just pissed. Could still work out.
    3. I wanted Cro for cheap depth, he's also a seasoned vet who has been here for a while.
    4. Hated Petterson from the beginning. CB's are so important, the guy has been on to many teams. That says something to me. A team isn't getting rid of a talented corner unless there in something severely wrong. Obvi he's a head case. I didn't mind taking a shot with Goodson, but the CB position was important to count on this guy as anything more then depth.
    How can anyone rationally blame Idzik because a guy with a shoulder issue hurt his knee? That makes ZERO sense to me. The two aren't related at all. And no, being "injury prone" has nothing to do with blowing out a knee.

    As for Cro, he was AWFUL last year, and he's older. Blasting Idzik for not bringing him back is revisionist history, especially with how low his value was on the open market.

    She's talking about Milliner now, not McDougle. And Cro was injured. You are being completely inconsistent, defending the drafting of injured players on one hand but blasting Cro for poor play when he was injured on the other. It seems that there are no valid critiques of Idzik with you, but the fact of the matter is this team stinks. She's absolutely right about the Patterson situation, and the larger matter of how Idzik addressed both CB and WR. Idzik has made some really questionable calls, and it is perfectly valid to criticize his roster.
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by The Wicker Man on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:47

    Need to fair catch that one!
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by NickSINYC on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:47

    loving what the D is doing so far
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by The Wicker Man on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:48

    Put Kerley back there.

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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by Metjetgal on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:48

    Wow
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by NickSINYC on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:48

    STs needs to get their act together

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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by Metjetgal on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:49

    So bad. I mean, they can't find a guy who can catch back there????
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by NCgreen12 on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:50

    NCgreen12 wrote:Great but surprising start. No turnovers that will be the key.

    So much for that thought... You get what you pay for. Walter Powell...
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by NickSINYC on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:50

    Denver is killing themselves
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by GratefulJet on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:51

    Copples misses more sack opportunities than anyone. HE needs to learn how to break down and finish the play.

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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by jamesfyo123 on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:51

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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by The Wicker Man on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:52

    The D bails out Powell. Powell may want to update his resume'.
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by SackExchange on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:52

    GratefulJet wrote:
    SackExchange wrote:
    Metjetgal wrote:
    SackExchange wrote:
    Metjetgal wrote:Milliner couldn't stay healthy in college. Then they draft a guy with a bad shoulder, let Cro walk, and sign a guy that's been on 30 teams in 2 seasons. Idzik looks so assinine.
    OK, a couple points.

    1. Valid critique of Milliner and his health.
    2. Blaming Idzik because the guy with a bad shoulder tore his knee is pretty creative.
    3. Cro looked shot last year, and honestly hasn't exactly torn it up this year.
    4. Patterson's problems were injuries. When he was healthy, he was stellar. Still, legit critique.

    So two of your four points are valid, and the other two are just finding inventive ways of bashing Idzik.

    2. Sometimes injury prone guys are just injury prone. See Milliner. Not a terrible pick, I'm just pissed. Could still work out.
    3. I wanted Cro for cheap depth, he's also a seasoned vet who has been here for a while.
    4. Hated Petterson from the beginning. CB's are so important, the guy has been on to many teams. That says something to me. A team isn't getting rid of a talented corner unless there in something severely wrong. Obvi he's a head case. I didn't mind taking a shot with Goodson, but the CB position was important to count on this guy as anything more then depth.
    How can anyone rationally blame Idzik because a guy with a shoulder issue hurt his knee? That makes ZERO sense to me. The two aren't related at all. And no, being "injury prone" has nothing to do with blowing out a knee.

    As for Cro, he was AWFUL last year, and he's older. Blasting Idzik for not bringing him back is revisionist history, especially with how low his value was on the open market.

    She's talking about Milliner now, not McDougle. And Cro was injured. You are being completely inconsistent, defending the drafting of injured players on one hand but blasting Cro for poor play when he was injured on the other. It seems that there are no valid critiques of Idzik with you, but the fact of the matter is this team stinks. She's absolutely right about the Patterson situation, and the larger matter of how Idzik addressed both CB and WR. Idzik has made some really questionable calls, and it is perfectly valid to criticize his roster.
    If she's talking about Milliner and not McDougle, doesn't he have an ankle injury? Or does he have a high shoulder sprain?

    And if I'm being inconsistent about Cromartie, I guess it has everything to do with him being close to 10 years older than the other guys we're talking about. I have a little more confidence in a young guy recovering from injury than a guy who is past his prime.

    As for Patterson, I have no problem criticizing him for that. He was exactly what I said he was, extremely injury-prone but very productive when he was healthy.

    Idzik has not done enough at CB or WR. I have NO problem saying that. He deserves criticism, especially with how the DRC situation was handled. But bashing him because a guy with a bad shoulder history hurt his leg is just ridiculous.
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by NickSINYC on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:53

    loving the pressure we are generating today
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by The Wicker Man on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:56

    Powell really f'd up the our field position.
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by GratefulJet on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:57

    It is getting really hard to avoid the conclusion that Geno just stinks.
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by SackExchange on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:57

    With the ground game this team has, why throw like that inside your own five?

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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by Metjetgal on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:58

    The Wicker Man wrote:Powell really f'd up the our field position.

    Killed us, and we pretty much needed to play perfect.
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by NickSINYC on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 13:59

    D needs to keep it up here this drive could be a momentum changer
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by SackExchange on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 14:00

    How is this secondary doing it so far?

    (Looking for wood on which to knock.)
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by The Wicker Man on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 14:01

    I'm just waiting for the Welker slants to kill us.
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by NCgreen12 on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 14:02

    Payton's arm looks weak.. Wow.
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by SackExchange on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 14:02

    The Wicker Man wrote:I'm just waiting for the Welker slants to kill us.
    I'm hoping Pryor would encourage him not to catch slants...
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    Re: Broncos at Jets 1PM Oct. 12th

    Post by GratefulJet on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 14:03

    Tillman gashing us running the ball.

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