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NickSINYC wrote:1) team is always poorly preparedJohnnyBaseball wrote:Nothing in particular except that he's had some success here in the past, and I like the organization to have continuity. I wouldn't think it was wrong if he was fired. I would certainly understand it. But I don't think we HAVE to fire anyone based on our record. I just want to assess the strengths and weaknesses of our personnel and decide whether we think they give us the best chance to win going to forward, and that's what I want the determination to be made on. I don't want to punish people for losing, if doing that means we are losing talented people who could help us win. And I want the assessment to at least include a discussion of what were the appropriate expectations for these players, and not just say "we didn't win X number of games, so that's not good enough, and therefore, we must make a move."
It's not really possible to judge a GM based on two offseasons, I don't think, and it isn't really possible to judge a coach until he has players who can actually execute his game plans. I dunno, I just hate seeing people get fired because every time we make a move for a new coach or GM, it restarts this "wait and see, give 'em a chance" argument. But the way we have been doing it hasn't worked at all or produced any meaningful success for, what, over 40 years now? So maybe we should take a different approach? At least if a coach/GM are around for 6 or 7 or more years, there can be no doubt that the team on the field represents what that coach and that GM intended to put on the field, and there would be no more argument over who gets credit or blame for various players.
It's a tough call. If we can improve our chances to win by making moves, then I am all for it. But I'm just not sure that we'd actually be doing that by making a move. When some more specific names start to emerge, it will be easier to make that determination.
2) team is always minus in turnover dept
3) always out coached at halftime with adjustments
4) as much as players love him he never seems to have a handle of what is actually going on in his locker room
5) poor clock management
6) team always takes stupid penalties
All these problems have lasted over 6 years through multiple GMs, Coordinators, Coaches and vastly different groups of players. The one constant is Rex.
He is not a good HC. He is a good DC. Forget 1-7 Rex should not even be here this year to have gone 1-7
NickSINYC wrote:
How many players from the 2009 team are playing this year? I believe its 4 but I may be mistaken
The shame is all her fans who she has had for years and have nothing to do with this have to sufferfootball51 wrote:For some reason, ignorant members of our fan base have forced Jessie James Decker to shut down her twitter account.
Kimberley A. Martin @KMart_LI · 2h 2 hours ago
I see others were wondering the same thing I was: it appears Jessie James Decker deactivated her Twitter account ...(Hope it's temporary)
Brian Costello @BrianCoz · 3h 3 hours ago
I told Eric Decker I was surprised at the twitter hate because I only ever get love from Jets fans on twitter.
Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 2h 2 hours ago
#Jets fans: Getting player's lovely wives to deactivate their Twitter account and wasting their money on dumb billboard campaigns
Old#15 wrote:Superman55 wrote:Old#15 wrote:With all due respects, its not entirely his mess. He inherited a colossal mess with a bare cupboard and a cap nightmare. Granted every move hasn't been good, but how much of what we are now witnessing can be attributed to the effects of miserable player development, little or no homegrown talent from the previous 4 pre-Idzik drafts, player misuse and generally poor coaching. I think that the fact that we have such a poor base or poorly coached base of talent on this roster puts way too much pressure on 22 year old draftees to contribute immediately at the level that some of us expect.
He's had 20 draft picks and $50 mill in cap space to spend, over half the roster is his mess. No free passes in this grown men industry.
And the players not his mess are names like Harris, Mangold, Brick, Pace, Snacks, Kendrick Ellis, Douzable, Walls, Coples, some guy named Mo Wilkerson, Demario Davis, Powell, Kerley, and Cumberland. Somehow I dont feel the players he inherited are the problem...
My comment stands. We may have a chicken vs. the egg argument. I feel that no matter what you put on the field, if they are not properly prepared, coached, or suited for the scheme then the fault in my eyes is with the coaching. With Ryan at the helm I don't think we'll ever know what the ceiling could have been with the likes of Coples, Smith, and maybe even Sanchez. Of the players you listed Mo and Snacks are the only 2 who have achieved 'greatness' under Rex, and I honestly believe their success is due in large part to DL coach Dunbar. Davis IMHO is succeeding on his own. Walls is part of the of a secondary that many characterize as a 'miserable mess', so he is probably not the best example to give. The offensive duo of Powell and Cumberland, not exactly foundation guys, more like JAGs. Coples again IMHO is the poster child of Rex's inability to play to a players strengths vs being marginalized in a glorified defensive coord's ego-driven scheme. I'm rambling here, so I'll stop.
SackExchange wrote:On another note, it seems that not as much on this board, but among Jets fans in general, Rex may be one of the first guys to constantly get a free pass. He has been here six years, and there aren't that many calls for him to be fired. Meanwhile, there's a new site out there, firejohnidzik.com
Rex is incredibly bulletproof with this fan base.
SackExchange wrote:There are times this fan base embarrasses me. This is one of them.
GratefulJet wrote:SackExchange wrote:On another note, it seems that not as much on this board, but among Jets fans in general, Rex may be one of the first guys to constantly get a free pass. He has been here six years, and there aren't that many calls for him to be fired. Meanwhile, there's a new site out there, firejohnidzik.com
Rex is incredibly bulletproof with this fan base.
I'd crosscheck the IP address of that site's admin against Rex's desktop, LOL!
very funny...WilliesDad wrote:SackExchange wrote:There are times this fan base embarrasses me. This is one of them.
Ditto. Shameful.
SackExchange wrote:There are times this fan base embarrasses me. This is one of them.
Old#15 wrote:SackExchange wrote:There are times this fan base embarrasses me. This is one of them.
Is it the discussions that we are having here, the 'fireidzik.com' clan or what? just curious. For what its worth, I think this board is pretty decent in terms of thoughtful and respectful discussions.
Yes, this.football51 wrote:Old#15 wrote:SackExchange wrote:There are times this fan base embarrasses me. This is one of them.
Is it the discussions that we are having here, the 'fireidzik.com' clan or what? just curious. For what its worth, I think this board is pretty decent in terms of thoughtful and respectful discussions.
I think Sack means the poor treatment of Decker's wife.
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