hobson54 wrote: Superman55 wrote:
Appreciate your optimism though. I'm also glad Amaro was in last night. He was only in 12% of the offensive snaps before last night. Still think Marty is trying to figure out how to use him.
I too think Pryor will be a stud one day but is being used more in coverage than he should be to help our pathetic secondary. Allen is also doing solid for moving fr LB, to S, to CB.
Just too many holes fore to be optimistic.
Oh, and Dexker is a stud...but this draft class was stacked at WR and Saunders and Evans isn't exactly what I feel was addressing our needs...just my opinion.
I'm not saying people can't be critical of the draft. but here's what I don't get. you seem to like all of Pryor, Amaro and McDougle, but are also ripping Idzik for not drafting a WR. when we took Saunders, we could have taken Ellington. Ellington has yet to catch a ball this year. when we took Evans, we could have taken Bryant. Bryant has yet to catch a ball this year. so it's not like we passed on highly productive WRs by taking Saunders and Evans.
for the record, during the draft, I too wanted Ellington and Bryant when we took Saunders and Evans, respectively. but right now, none of these guys are doing anything. and looking at this so-called stacked draft, other than Benjamin (who if i recall you did not like), it's not like we passed on some great WRs, at least based on early production. Evans and Watkins were gone before we picked in the 1st. Matthews and Lee were gone when we picked in the 2nd (I guess we could have taken Robinson over Amaro, but then our TE position is weakened). and while lots of people love Montcrief, he's not exactly lighting it up yet (albeit on a loaded team). but if you think Dexter is a stud, you can't be so upset with taking him, given we also need CB help.
Hobson, with the draft, hindsight is always 20-20. I was not a fan of this particular draft for the Jets. The Jets had 12 picks, 12. How many are contributing? Pryor, Amaro, and that's it. Saunders fair catches punts or fumbles them basically. When you have that many picks, you need to get at least 50% of them to be contributing players. The Jets had so much ammunition they could have moved back, they could have moved up, they could have been aggressive. Idzik stood pat.
I generally had no problem with Pryor pick. The question was Pryor or Brandin Cooks, or Kelvin Benjamin, or a CB. Right now at least, Cooks and Benjamin have been bigger contributors to their teams then Pryor has. I don't remember which CBs were on the Board in the first and second round, so I'm not sure if Fuller was on the board, but I recall the Jets were high on him too. I would have liked to have seen the Jets do a better job of prioritizing their needs. WR & CB were the two biggest weaknesses and we are three weeks into a new season and we have the same issues we had last year with the roster. That's bad decision-making on the part of the GM. Idzik hung his hat on Milliner, who can't stay on the field, Dimitri Patterson, a career journeyman with an attitude problem, and McDougle, a player coming off a season-ending injury in college. That's it. Does that sound like a good approach? To me, it sounds like a guy that really can't figure out what kind of team he wants to build, and can't assess the state of his own franchise. Every knowledgeable Jet fan on this Board knows what the issue are. Every coach knows what the issues are. Why didn't the GM address those needs. And then you look at our schedule and you see Rodgers, Cutler, Brady, Manning, Rivers, Stafford - and you have to know you need CBs! And you have to know you are going to need to score more points to win those games.
The counter argument is, well he picked up Decker. Yes, true, good move, good player. But we have nothing behind him.
I saw Cimini's numbers this morning on Geno with Decker on the field and with him off, it's a staggering difference. I think if you give this kid some weapons, he has a chance to be a pretty good player. 3 games in, and he is throwing to the same WRs we had last year. That's not good. Because that group is in my opinion the worst group in the league.
At CB, Milliner is the pick that is really hurting this team. He can't stay on the field and when he's out there, he's a mess most of the time. You can't miss on a pick that high. It sets your franchise back for years. Especially with the way the Jets play defense, we need good CBs. And our offense is not a quick strike offense, we are built to run the ball. So we can't get into shoot-outs and expect to win.
Geno needs to take a hit for the INT to start the game. That throw in the end zone, I know what he was trying to do, it wasn't a great decision, but he was trying to throw it up to give Nelson a chance because of his height advantage. It didn't work out.
The play calling in the red zone last night was mind-boggling. And I haven't said that about Marty yet. He generally calls a good, aggressive game. This was not his finest hour.
But right now, the problem with this team is the lack of depth at two of the most important positions in football, CB and WR. If we don't have players there, we can't win, not with our schedule. And to me, that falls on Idzik.
As far as Rex goes, I still think if you give the guy the roster he needs, he can win a Super Bowl. That is my benchmark. Can this guy coach a team to the Super Bowl. On defense he absolutely can. On offense, no. But, if you give him a very good coordinator like Marty, he can win a championship. If we let Rex go, who replaces him? Darren Bevell? What makes us think we can even get him? Rex is good coach, we need to stick with him for at least another season, unless this team completely falls apart.
