New York Jets @ Green Bay Packers (CBS)-4:25PM ET

HYATT™ wrote:

SackExchange wrote:The Jets, with this DL, are stout against the run. They are suspect against the pass, and have somewhat limited pass rush abilities.

You even spoke earlier about how Geno was facing a real secondary this week, and how it was exposing him. Now you're arguing the Packers have a bad pass defense, and the Jets have a better pass defense than the Packers? Get out of here!

You argue out of both sides of your mouth here.

Not to mention you are citing the front seven to make arguments about pass defense, ignoring the secondary.

No, I SAID, the Packers have a BAD pass RUSH.
The Packers secondary doesn't have much to do with the pass rush, they help create coverage sacks, if anything, and GB's front 7 had HOW many sacks today? (2 - both on broken plays, NOT coverage sacks.)

SackExchange wrote:Last time the Jets blew an 18-point lead? 2002.

Inexcusable. This was a winnable game. They proved they could outplay that team. And they went into a shell. The defense stopped hitting Rodgers, the offense stopped moving the ball. Just inexcusable.

Still some holes on this team. AWFUL pass coverage, just awful. Geno was decent but inconsistent. The INT, not too much his fault. But they let the Packers load the box at the end.

SackExchange wrote:Wait, what are you arguing? If you're arguing that Rodgers is a great QB and Geno is a bum, fine. But to prove that point, and bring up the front 7s of both teams while ignoring the secondaries of both teams is just selectively cherrypicking to prove your point.

But I have learned that there is nothing that will ever get you to even slightly question your infallibility, so I have no intention of trying. You, as always, are 100% 99.99% right, and anyone who has ever questioned you is 100% wrong.

Hey, if Geno Smith starts looking like an NFL Pro starting QB, HYATT will be the FIRST one to point it out.
Hyatt is just saying, don't hold yer breath, he'd miss ya.

Jets fans are hurting right now, and VERY defensive.
It WAS a "winnable" game for them - if they had a better QB, but they WANT to NOT come down on the youngster - because love him - hate him - indifferent to him - Jets fans are STUCK with him, for the time being, just like they were with Snatchez for so many years.
A LOT of Jets fans continued to defend HIM, too, for far too long beyond his evident expiration date.

NCgreen12 wrote:Not sure I could be more bummed than I am right now. This was a real winable game that turned when Winters did one of his classic Ole blocks that altered Geno's pass to Sudfeld (who BTW did an awful job of fighting for the ball). That seemed to either change Geno or Marty's play calling. Still no excuse for letting the pack travel 90 yards. Really shows our secondary is the weak link on this team but Rodgers is also a great QB so I will cut them a little slack..

BTW - whenever there's a jail break on the offensive line you can bet Winters got beat on an inside move. Not a big fan of him at all.

On the positive side I actually thought Smith played fairly well but still needs some maturing. He started off great and I thought the play calling in the second half was very predictable. Should have seen more first down play action as well as some screens. AND please leave Vick on the bench.

We also had a couple of bad breaks with the time out and the 12 men on the field.

Only the second game and a very tough one to win in Green Bay.

hobson54 wrote:well that sucked.  but i kind of felt as soon as geno threw that int that the tide was gonna turn and we would lose the game.  unfortunately, that proved correct   

not much more to add than what has been discussed already.  play-calling in the 2nd half was a bit mind boggling.  geno started nicely, but they coasted on the lead and then couldn't get going again.

dumb mistakes again cost us.  i would add that the int called back on the penalty was clearly a case of rodgers quick snapping with the jets having too many men on the field, so i think he probably forced a throw knowing there was no "downside".  not sure he makes the same throw if he didn't know he had a free play.

i expected a loss...if not a blowout loss...so i'm not too down.  the team still looks like the 8ish (give or take) win team i expected them to be.

hobson54 wrote:fwiw - that 55 yard FG proved the deciding factor in winning my fantasy football game this week.  so i got that going for me...

JohnnyBaseball wrote:It was not good to see the team completely lose their composure yesterday. That's a very bad sign. Things started going poorly, and they couldn't handle it. They looked panicked, and then later, they looked like they were throwing a temper tantrum and almost looked ready to quit. I do not like what I saw from the team yesterday, in terms of maturity.

Metjetgal wrote:I wonder if Idzik is worried about the secondary now? This game was so typical. Cro looked pretty decent against the Giants. We are woefully thin at wr and cb. I'm so angry I don't even want to think about this game. Just want to move on. Schedule doesn't get any easier, and we rally need to avoid 1-3 for Sept.

lnap23 wrote:Funny thing is the Defense stopped GB cold on all 3 or 4 drives after that scrum..