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    Post by jetsfanshanghai Mon 29 Dec 2014 - 1:29

    cysporsche wrote:
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    SackExchange wrote:For the Browns, a rather convenient suspension, as it means this season does not count toward Gordon's accrued season total. Therefore, he's restricted this upcoming offseason, a RFA, not an UFA.

    Indeed. The decision to suspend him was hardly carved in stone--they could have dealt with him missing the walk-through in any number of ways.

    Well, that being said, Gordon appears to be his own worst enemy, and probably the only person who can stop him from putting up 100 yards receiving every week.


    I bet the Browns would entertain a high (2) draft choice for Gordon ? Is he too big a gamble to trade for ?

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    Cy, the guy is full of talent but a head case who is his own worst enemy.....don't think this latest suspension will change his character over night. Why waste a high pick on a guy that has issues seeing the field due to being a "muppet"

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    Post by AFA2017 Mon 29 Dec 2014 - 5:33

    I don't think Gordon is much as a head case, but someone who likes to Party too much (as Farve was when young). I would Gamble with a 3rd Rd pick. Multiple picks for the Jets have been disaster of late. I would take a flyer on Gordon and sign Harvin to a 2-4 yr deal and give us the best or close to the best WR corp in football. The draft does not guarantee a WR will be successful. We just need a HC who will crack the whip and not be a best buddy as Ryan was!
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    Post by hobson54 Mon 29 Dec 2014 - 9:31

    AFA2017 wrote:I don't think Gordon is much as a head case, but someone who likes to Party too much (as Farve was when young). I would Gamble with a 3rd Rd pick. Multiple picks for the Jets have been  disaster of late. I would take a flyer on Gordon and sign Harvin to a 2-4 yr deal and give us the best or close to the best WR corp in football. The draft does not guarantee a WR will be successful. We just need a HC who will crack the whip and not be a best buddy as Ryan was!


    the problem with gordon and is partying ways is he is one failed drug test away from a year (if not more) suspension.

    gordon is uber-talented and a threat to the opponent every time he steps on the field. the problem is he is also a threat to himself off the field, and you have no degree of certainty he will ever grow up and be able to step onto the playing field 16 games a year.
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    Post by GratefulJet Mon 29 Dec 2014 - 10:10

    Kyle Orton is retiring??
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    Post by GratefulJet Mon 29 Dec 2014 - 10:34

    GratefulJet wrote:Kyle Orton is retiring??

    It must be nice to retire at 32 with millions in the bank when you were never more than average at your job compared to your peers. I like Kyle Orton, thought he would have a better career coming out of Purdue, but he couldn't get it going with the Bears or the other teams that followed. Just didn't have the arm talent, really.

    Now what are the Bills going to do? Trade up for a QB? Oh, that's right, they don't have a 1st round pick to trade. I guess it's going to be the EJ Manuel show next year.
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    Post by hobson54 Mon 29 Dec 2014 - 10:38

    GratefulJet wrote:
    GratefulJet wrote:Kyle Orton is retiring??

    It must be nice to retire at 32 with millions in the bank when you were never more than average at your job compared to your peers. I like Kyle Orton, thought he would have a better career coming out of Purdue, but he couldn't get it going with the Bears or the other teams that followed. Just didn't have the arm talent, really.

    Now what are the Bills going to do? Trade up for a QB? Oh, that's right, they don't have a 1st round pick to trade. I guess it's going to be the EJ Manuel show next year.  


    well unless we draft (and likely trade up for) either winston or mariotta, we are really in no different shape than the bills are at QB.
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    Post by GratefulJet Mon 29 Dec 2014 - 10:40

    hobson54 wrote:
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    GratefulJet wrote:Kyle Orton is retiring??

    It must be nice to retire at 32 with millions in the bank when you were never more than average at your job compared to your peers. I like Kyle Orton, thought he would have a better career coming out of Purdue, but he couldn't get it going with the Bears or the other teams that followed. Just didn't have the arm talent, really.

    Now what are the Bills going to do? Trade up for a QB? Oh, that's right, they don't have a 1st round pick to trade. I guess it's going to be the EJ Manuel show next year.  


    well unless we draft (and likely trade up for) either winston or mariotta, we are really in no different shape than the bills are at QB.

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    Post by hobson54 Mon 29 Dec 2014 - 15:19

    Suh suspended for this week's playoff game. yet another recidivist knucklehead that can't seem to avoid doing stupid stuff

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12093617/ndamukong-suh-detroit-lions-suspended-playoff-game
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    Post by Blindsidebrick Mon 29 Dec 2014 - 15:39

    hobson54 wrote:Suh suspended for this week's playoff game.  yet another recidivist knucklehead that can't seem to avoid doing stupid stuff

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12093617/ndamukong-suh-detroit-lions-suspended-playoff-game

    Billick said it perfect: walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck...

    Rodgers had an injured leg during the game, and surprise surprise! Suh puts all of his weight on top of it. Dirtbag. He's done as a Lion. Which team takes a chance on this troublemaker?
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    Post by hobson54 Mon 29 Dec 2014 - 15:41

    Blindsidebrick wrote:
    hobson54 wrote:Suh suspended for this week's playoff game.  yet another recidivist knucklehead that can't seem to avoid doing stupid stuff

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12093617/ndamukong-suh-detroit-lions-suspended-playoff-game

    Billick said it perfect: walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck...

    Rodgers had an injured leg during the game, and surprise surprise! Suh puts all of his weight on top of it. Dirtbag. He's done as a Lion. Which team takes a chance on this troublemaker?

    sounds like a perfect fit for the raiders...
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    Post by Sarge Mon 29 Dec 2014 - 16:05

    Rex will take him in Atlanta Sad
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    Post by Superman55 Mon 29 Dec 2014 - 18:01

    Suh will be a Raider, he already wants the biggest contract out there regardless of team, Raiders will have the most cap space, and Mack and Suh would be a solid duo.

    Also, I think this sounds like he's available:


    Mike Pettine: We’re at a crossroads with Josh Gordon

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    Browns coach Mike Pettine held a year-end press conference on Monday and he spent a lot more time talking about off-field issues that on-field ones.

    That was predictable after wide receiver Josh Gordon, cornerback Justin Gilbert and quarterback Johnny Manziel all landed in trouble with the team for missing meetings over the weekend. While none of the situations is one that the Browns want to be dealing with right now, Gordon’s case is particularly troubling given his previous off-field issues and the need for the team to know if they can count on him in the future.

    “Clearly a disappointing end to the year for him. At some point you get tired of using the word potential,” Pettine said, via Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal. “This offseason for Josh Gordon puts him squarely at a crossroads with us. We want him here, but want him accountable.”

    Speaking more generally, Pettine said he didn’t know how to keep players from getting in trouble off the field because they are adults that need to take care of themselves and that the team was “going to take time” to discuss how to move forward with the players who got in trouble over the weekend.

    The Browns were looking at all three players as part of the foundation of a consistent winner, which makes discussing whether they’ll be on the team at all a depressing way to end a season even for a team that’s had as many of them as the Browns.
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    Post by hobson54 Tue 30 Dec 2014 - 9:21

    Brady restructures his contract to free up $24 million in cash.  my guess is Revis' agent is on line #1 looking to make a deal.

    http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/12094227/tom-brady-restructures-contract-give-new-england-patriots-24-million-more-cash

    In a deal turned into the NFL office Monday, quarterback Tom Brady restructured his contract to give the New England Patriots $24 million more in cash to spend this offseason, according to league sources.

    Under the new deal, Brady changed the $24 million in "skill" guarantee to only "injury" guarantee, meaning that Brady now would get the guaranteed money only if he were injured.

    Brady also now can be released by the Patriots without any liability, but he then would become an unrestricted free agent, free to command the type of guaranteed money he has agreed to surrender.

    Brady will receive a $1 million bump in each of the three remaining years of the deal. His base salaries will now be $8 million in 2016, $9 million in 2016 and $10 million in 2018.

    The move frees up cash for the Patriots to use on other players. New England needs the cash to help re-sign some of its own free agents, including cornerback Darrelle Revis, safety Devin McCourty, tackle Nate Solder and running back Shane Vereen, among others.
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    Post by cysporsche Tue 30 Dec 2014 - 11:15

    hobson54 wrote:Brady restructures his contract to free up $24 million in cash.  my guess is Revis' agent is on line #1 looking to make a deal.

    http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/12094227/tom-brady-restructures-contract-give-new-england-patriots-24-million-more-cash

    In a deal turned into the NFL office Monday, quarterback Tom Brady restructured his contract to give the New England Patriots $24 million more in cash to spend this offseason, according to league sources.

    Under the new deal, Brady changed the $24 million in "skill" guarantee to only "injury" guarantee, meaning that Brady now would get the guaranteed money only if he were injured.

    Brady also now can be released by the Patriots without any liability, but he then would become an unrestricted free agent, free to command the type of guaranteed money he has agreed to surrender.

    Brady will receive a $1 million bump in each of the three remaining years of the deal. His base salaries will now be $8 million in 2016, $9 million in 2016 and $10 million in 2018.

    The move frees up cash for the Patriots to use on other players. New England needs the cash to help re-sign some of its own free agents, including cornerback Darrelle Revis, safety Devin McCourty, tackle Nate Solder and running back Shane Vereen, among others.

    This sounds very fishy to me ? A restructured deal giving the Patriots 24 million more to play with ? I hope the NFL investigates this, because I don't trust the Patriots @ all. Brady does'nt care, because his wife makes more money than he does. affraid

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    Post by cysporsche Tue 30 Dec 2014 - 11:17

    Eric Mangini is being considered as the Raiders new HC. That's a name out of the blue.

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    Post by SackExchange Tue 30 Dec 2014 - 12:38

    Let's ease up with the Brady move. It does not clear up any cap space. All it does is give them more financial flexibility, cash flexibility.
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    Post by cysporsche Tue 30 Dec 2014 - 17:06

    GratefulJet wrote:Kyle Orton is retiring??


    affraid That's a huge kick in the nuts to the Bills. That's huge news because the Bills just finished above .500 @ 9-7 for the first time in a long time !

    I knew the Bills would be improved this year with Sammy Watkins WR, but Orton pushed them over the top.

    Are they going to go with EJ Manuel or snag another old retread ?

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    Post by football51 Tue 30 Dec 2014 - 17:42



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    Post by football51 Wed 31 Dec 2014 - 10:42



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    Most #Bills asst coaches are only signed through 2015 (Schwartz's longer). Marrone looking for more stability from ownership, source said.







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    As of 10 minutes ago, league source said that #Bills coaches still aren't sure whether Marrone will opt out. Stay tuned...







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    If Marrone opts out, he goes near the top of available HC coaches. And he has a staff ready to go, which is key.
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    Post by football51 Thu 1 Jan 2015 - 14:41



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    Polian said he spoke w Terry Pegula over holidays about a mentoring/advisory role. Things changed w Orton's retirement & Marrone's leaving.




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    Polian said job changed to a "real heavy lift. Hire new coach, hire staff, etc., etc."




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    Polian: "It would have required a really long commitment to a new coach who deserved a long commitment that I wasn't prepared to make."




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    Polian: "Because of the circumstances that had changed so dramatically required a commitment I wasn't prepared to make." He's 72.





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    Polian has a new contract from ESPN. "It certainly wouldn't have been as lucrative" as what he would have received from #Bills.





    So......... Polian would've wanted to work with Marrone.



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    Post by Sarge Thu 1 Jan 2015 - 16:12

    Things suck even more than usual in Buffalo right now
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    Post by football51 Fri 2 Jan 2015 - 16:14



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    Post by football51 Fri 2 Jan 2015 - 19:41



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    The #Eagles announce a fairly large change. Howie Roseman elevated to executive VP/Football Ops. Chip Kelly runs player personnel.






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    A day of debate leads the #Eagles into a new direction, which looks like where they were with Andy Reid. Chip Kelly oversees all scouts.
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    Post by football51 Fri 2 Jan 2015 - 19:46



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    Coach Kelly will oversee player personnel department and lead efforts to hire a new personnel executive, a process that begins immediately.





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    The fact that the personnel staff will report to Chip Kelly is a pretty massive piece of power. He already had final say over Eagles' 53.


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