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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by football51 on Wed 19 Nov 2014 - 15:29

    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 24m 24 minutes ago
    I get it when #Jets fans stand up for Rex but can't get it when people can't concede that he's shown himself to be generally clueless on O




    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 23m 23 minutes ago
    This is a team that still runs the damn Wildcat through 3 OCs, tells their QBs directly where to throw the ball and had a stoplight system




    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 23m 23 minutes ago
    Pick your battles with Rex, he has no idea when it comes to offense and he has publicly admitted it multiple times



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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by Old#15 on Fri 21 Nov 2014 - 8:32

    football51 wrote:Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets  ·  24m 24 minutes ago
    I get it when #Jets fans stand up for Rex but can't get it when people can't concede that he's shown himself to be generally clueless on O




    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets  ·  23m 23 minutes ago
    This is a team that still runs the damn Wildcat through 3 OCs, tells their QBs directly where to throw the ball and had a stoplight system




    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets  ·  23m 23 minutes ago
    Pick your battles with Rex, he has no idea when it comes to offense and he has publicly admitted it multiple times



    Pretty much says it all for me on status of Rex. He is living in the past with both his defense and an offensive scheme that he probably had difficulty with 8 years ago.
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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by football51 on Fri 21 Nov 2014 - 14:28

    Shocked Herm/Rex




    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 1h 1 hour ago
    Coach A: 39-41, 1 div title, two 10+ win seasons, 2-3 playoff record

    Coach B: 44-46, 0 div title, one 10+ win season, 4-2 playoff record




    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 1h 1 hour ago
    Last Tweet - Relatively comparable resumes or no?




    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 1h 1 hour ago
    Bingo. Not all that much separating them at this point, on paper at least RT @fobbywobby: @TurnOnTheJets Herm and Rex?






    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 8m 8 minutes ago
    Both losses though. Limited value to losing in semifinals RT @RBomm: @TurnOnTheJets coach B had back to back AFC champ. Games though.





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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by football51 on Fri 21 Nov 2014 - 14:35

    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 7h 7 hours ago
    Halftime adjustment won't be this?RT @ProFootballTalk: Rex says NYJ improved "a zillion ways" since last BUF game





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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by GratefulJet on Tue 25 Nov 2014 - 6:24

    Tough night at RT for Wayne Hunter, I mean Austin Howard, no wait...was that Breno Giacomini getting used, abused, or flagged on virtually every play? Egads, what a rough game. Best can be said for Breno is the entire OL played disgracefully. Buffalo has a great front line and all, but that was simply inexcusable.
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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by Superman55 on Tue 25 Nov 2014 - 7:03

    I think after last night, you have to be worried about all aspects of the jets - GM, scouts, coaches, players, water boys, and flag girls...

    There isn't one part of this organization that is average right now. I'm not saying we do t have a handful of good players, we do, but even a lot of our better players stunk last night, IMO.
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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by football51 on Tue 25 Nov 2014 - 15:54

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/46402/rex-ryan-out-of-miracles-five-weeks-from-a-pink-slip
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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by football51 on Tue 25 Nov 2014 - 15:57

    From Rich Cimini on espnnewyork.com





    2. Reiterating what I wrote after the game, this one’s on Rex Ryan. His team showed absolutely no pulse. He prides himself on having the most physical team in the league, but his players were on the receiving end of almost every big hit. The players can talk all they want about their affinity for Ryan, but you know what they say: Actions speak louder than words.




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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by soj on Tue 25 Nov 2014 - 18:06

    football51 wrote:From Rich Cimini on espnnewyork.com





    2. Reiterating what I wrote after the game, this one’s on Rex Ryan. His team showed absolutely no pulse. He prides himself on having the most physical team in the league, but his players were on the receiving end of almost every big hit. The players can talk all they want about their affinity for Ryan, but you know what they say: Actions speak louder than words.




    I hate to agree with RC but he is right... rex is done and so is this team. Stick a fork in both.
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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by GratefulJet on Tue 25 Nov 2014 - 18:20

    Can't believe Rex is talking about starting Vick. MV looked like he quit on the team last night, and he's definitely not coming back in 2015. So start Geno or Simms, I don't care which. Anyone but Michael Vick, for goodness' sake.
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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by football51 on Tue 25 Nov 2014 - 18:23

    GratefulJet wrote:Can't believe Rex is talking about starting Vick. MV looked like he quit on the team last night, and he's definitely not coming back in 2015. So start Geno or Simms, I don't care which. Anyone but Michael Vick, for goodness' sake.





    I guess he didn't mean at qb Bang Head .





    Chris Nimbley @Cnimbley · 22m 22 minutes ago
    Rex had one comment that still holds some meaning as he says 'Young Players Will Get More Playing Time' #Jets http://nyj.scout.com/story/1485024-young-players-to-get-more-playing-time?s=65 …

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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by football51 on Fri 28 Nov 2014 - 14:42

    Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN · Nov 27
    Rex Ryan is one of the smartest people I have ever covered. He's not about to create conflict/friction with Jets on his way out. #nyj








    Translation........."This guy gives me all the information I need to bury the Jets under the anonymous source tag."

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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by Blindsidebrick on Fri 28 Nov 2014 - 19:59

    football51 wrote:Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN  ·  Nov 27
    Rex Ryan is one of the smartest people I have ever covered. He's not about to create conflict/friction with Jets on his way out. #nyj








    Translation........."This guy gives me all the information I need to bury the Jets under the anonymous source tag."

    Bingo. Rex is smart because he always gives me what I want.

    Idzik should be fired because he blows me off like the worthless TMZ reporter that I am.
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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by football51 on Tue 2 Dec 2014 - 15:23

    Rex going back on his word........... shocking Rolling Eyes





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    Old habits die hard... RT @BrianCoz: Safety snaps: Landry 53 of 59 (90 petcent), Jarrett 42 (71), Pryor 23 (39), Allen 0 #nyj


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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by football51 on Tue 2 Dec 2014 - 15:32

    notice the date Rolling Eyes



    Ben Shpigel @benshpigel · 6m 6 minutes ago
    12/26/11, Rex: "Having been playcaller myself for 10 yrs, the toughest offenses to face are ones that are balanced:" http://nyti.ms/1wlQOII





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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by football51 on Tue 2 Dec 2014 - 15:38

    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 16h 16 hours ago
    Rex Ryan now 44-48, 16-31 in his last 47, 14-20 vs. AFC East, now with one more 10 loss season than 10 win in 6 years as #Jets HC


    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 16h 16 hours ago
    Again, that is 16-31 in his last 47 over 2 GMs, 3 OCs, 2 DCs, 3 QBs. And no offensive competence. Sounds like a made for TV resume.



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    Nathan Jahnke @PFF_NateJahnke · 16h 16 hours ago
    The Jets faced 3 or more wide receivers on 48 plays tonight. They used a base defense to face it 44 times, and a nickel defense 4 times.





    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 5h 5 hours ago
    Somebody tell Rex: Points are more valuable than rushing yards. Wins are more valuable than your total defense ranking #Jets




    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 4h 4 hours ago
    Decker didn't come up with two tough but catchable balls. Still hard to play WR when you get 60 snaps & 4 targets when manned up on PS CB




    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 3h 3 hours ago
    Same goes for Harvin. He received two targets at WR against a patch-work secondary. Can't judge what he is or isn't like that. #Jets




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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by football51 on Tue 2 Dec 2014 - 17:10

    Coaching..............



    Rich Cimini @RichCimini · 1h 1 hour ago
    Jets became only 5th team in last 9 years to rush for at least 277 yds + lose. Jets did it in '09 vs Buf. Didn't happen from 1985 to 2005




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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by football51 on Tue 2 Dec 2014 - 18:23

    This is why Rex is clueless(well, one reason). We're 2-10..........




    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 44m 44 minutes ago
    Fair from his perspective and why he should be fired today. RT @RichCimini: Ryan says he won't sacrifice winning for player development


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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by NickSINYC on Tue 2 Dec 2014 - 18:32

    football51 wrote:This is why Rex is clueless(well, one reason). We're 2-10..........




    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets  ·  44m 44 minutes ago
    Fair from his perspective and why he should be fired today. RT @RichCimini: Ryan says he won't sacrifice winning for player development


    Rex is hampering our young players development and should have been fired already. This is why I hate Woody he refuses to let people be fired in season and his meddling is once again setting the team back.
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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by football51 on Tue 2 Dec 2014 - 18:44

    I wonder if he would've been fired if we had lost the Steelers game.
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    Post by NickSINYC on Tue 2 Dec 2014 - 18:54

    football51 wrote:I wonder if he would've been fired if we had lost the Steelers game.
    I doubt it. I have seen Woody quotes that everyone gets evaluated after the season. Plus we all know Rex is a special case for Woody.
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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by Superman55 on Tue 2 Dec 2014 - 22:07

    NickSINYC wrote:
    football51 wrote:I wonder if he would've been fired if we had lost the Steelers game.
    I doubt it. I have seen Woody quotes that everyone gets evaluated after the season. Plus we all know Rex is a special case for Woody.

    agreed
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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by football51 on Wed 3 Dec 2014 - 15:48

    Someone needs to give him a clue.


    Rich Cimini @RichCimini · 2h 2 hours ago
    Ryan stressing winning over player evaluation: "I don't want to be 2-14, I can tell you that much." #nyj


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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by football51 on Wed 3 Dec 2014 - 15:56

    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 6h 6 hours ago
    Going to hit on this on my next long read but underrated part of why Rex has went into tank: Poor hires to replace his quality assistants



    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 6h 6 hours ago
    Very clear divide between Rex/Pettine by end of 2012. Him and other parts of staff fed up with how Rex ran team in 11/12 #Jets





    Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · 6h 6 hours ago
    Rex was gifted Sutton, Westhoff , Callahan and smartly brought Pettine along. Once they left? Disaster.
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    Re: When is it the coach and when is it the players?

    Post by football51 on Wed 3 Dec 2014 - 18:37

    Coaching............




    Brian Costello @BrianCoz · 30m 30 minutes ago
    Updating my snap chart and noticed this: David Nelson (cut after Week 7) still has more reps 298 than Chris Johnson 291 this season. #nyj





    How many envisioned CJ catching 50+ balls this year like LT did for us in 2010? I know I did. Geez, even Schotty got that right.

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