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    Post by NYJETSDAN16 on Tue 27 Jan 2015 - 16:38

    Hey why not, he might be a draft day trade..



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    Post by NickSINYC on Tue 27 Jan 2015 - 16:40

    Dan a late round option I think who has some promise is Bryan Bennett
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    Post by NYJETSDAN16 on Tue 27 Jan 2015 - 16:41

    NickSINYC wrote:Dan a late round option I think who has some promise is Bryan Bennett

    I think Chip will be all over this guy.
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    Post by HYATT™ on Tue 27 Jan 2015 - 18:19

    Seaver wrote:
    HYATT™️ wrote:
    SackExchange wrote:
    Sarge wrote:A player starting to get a lot of buzz is Miami OT Eric Flowers, some think he could be the 1st OL off the board.
    I know he's been moving up, but first OL off the board? Wow!
    Flowers is liked a lot more as a potential RT than he is as a future LT, though many hold out hopes for him as a LT too.
    Better run blocker than pass blocker, and a beat slow to come off the ball at times - which HYATT™️ believes is a function of his inability to control his weight and keep himself in the 320# range.
    I took a peek at him late in the season and 330# is like the nice way of saying she looks good - after a chubby chick with a pretty face loses some weight & a little bit of her muffin roll, even though she's still the same old chubby chick.

    so basically we will find out if our GM and/or HC are chubby chasers. tongue
    Oi !!!
    That's not necessarily a bad thing, given the needs of the Jets OL at RT.
    Chubby chix need luv too, after all. Razz

    RT better than LT prospects have a way of falling in the draft a bit, giving the Jets the option to trade back, (if Winston is gone at #6), pick up an extra pick or two, and STILL land a premium RT.
    HYATT™️ can think of worse scenarios for the early round picks.
    The OL needs attention, & in HYATT™️'s view is the #1 priority for a team without a franchise QB - for the obvious reasons of protecting such a lesser QB to give him time to throw more accurately, & opening bigger holes for the RB(s).

    New England and Pittsburgh have used quality OL play to rake in 5 combined Lombardi Trophies over the past decade and a half in a total of 8 Super Bowl appearances. You can probably toss Flacco's & Eli's (2) rings in there as well.
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    Post by Blindsidebrick on Tue 27 Jan 2015 - 19:49

    HYATT™️ wrote:
    Seaver wrote:
    HYATT™️ wrote:
    SackExchange wrote:
    Sarge wrote:A player starting to get a lot of buzz is Miami OT Eric Flowers, some think he could be the 1st OL off the board.
    I know he's been moving up, but first OL off the board? Wow!
    Flowers is liked a lot more as a potential RT than he is as a future LT, though many hold out hopes for him as a LT too.
    Better run blocker than pass blocker, and a beat slow to come off the ball at times - which HYATT™️ believes is a function of his inability to control his weight and keep himself in the 320# range.
    I took a peek at him late in the season and 330# is like the nice way of saying she looks good - after a chubby chick with a pretty face loses some weight & a little bit of her muffin roll, even though she's still the same old chubby chick.


    so basically we will find out if our GM and/or HC are chubby chasers. tongue
    Oi !!!
    That's not necessarily a bad thing, given the needs of the Jets OL at RT.
    Chubby chix need luv too, after all. Razz

    RT better than LT prospects have a way of falling in the draft a bit, giving the Jets the option to trade back, (if Winston is gone at #6), pick up an extra pick or two, and STILL land a premium RT.
    HYATT™️ can think of worse scenarios for the early round picks.
    The OL needs attention, & in HYATT™️'s view is the #1 priority for a team without a franchise QB - for the obvious reasons of protecting such a lesser QB to give him time to throw more accurately, & opening bigger holes for the RB(s).

    New England and Pittsburgh have used quality OL play to rake in 5 combined Lombardi Trophies over the past decade and a half in a total of 8 Super Bowl appearances. You can probably toss Flacco's & Eli's (2) rings in there as well.

    The Jets have more pressing needs at guard. I think the focus will be there. Wouldn't be shocking to see a RT drafted, but Breno should get another year to prove himself.
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    Post by Pointdexter on Wed 28 Jan 2015 - 9:41

    It's worth pointing out, (and I don't feel like doing the research), but I believe the Patriots haven't taken an OL in the first round in the entire Belichick era.

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    Post by hobson54 on Wed 28 Jan 2015 - 9:48

    Pointdexter wrote:It's worth pointing out, (and I don't feel like doing the research), but I believe the Patriots haven't taken an OL in the first round in the entire Belichick era.


    nate solder in 2011
    logan mankins in 2005

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/draft.htm


    then again, i wouldn't be basing my draft decisions on the patriots way of drafting. they've had tremendous on-field success, but their drafting history under belichick leaves a lot to be desired.
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    Post by GratefulJet on Wed 28 Jan 2015 - 9:51

    Pointdexter wrote:It's worth pointing out, (and I don't feel like doing the research), but I believe the Patriots haven't taken an OL in the first round in the entire Belichick era.

    Well, if you had felt like doing the research, you would have learned that LT Nate Solder was a 2011 first round pick.  Wink
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    Post by Pointdexter on Wed 28 Jan 2015 - 10:17

    Lol, lesson learned.

    I just think drafting #6, and the way we continue to waste opportunities to select difference makers on the offensive side of the ball, it's high time we seize this opportunity. Unless there is an Orlando Pace kind of talent (and there's nothing close in this draft), drafting OL at #6 makes no sense to me.

    For me, I think we try to make a play for one of the two QB's or go after DGB/Amari Cooper. One guy (Cooper) was unstoppable in the SEC for the last 2 years, and the other guy (DGB) is 6'6, 225, runs a sub 4.5 and was an all-sec performer in just his sophomore year at Mizzou.

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    Post by hobson54 on Wed 28 Jan 2015 - 10:26

    Pointdexter wrote:Lol, lesson learned.  

    I just think drafting #6, and the way we continue to waste opportunities to select difference makers on the offensive side of the ball, it's high time we seize this opportunity.  Unless there is an Orlando Pace kind of talent (and there's nothing close in this draft), drafting OL at #6 makes no sense to me.  

    For me, I think we try to make a play for one of the two QB's or go after DGB/Amari Cooper.  One guy (Cooper) was unstoppable in the SEC for the last 2 years, and the other guy (DGB) is 6'6, 225, runs a sub 4.5 and was an all-sec performer in just his sophomore year at Mizzou.


    in this draft, with the lack (imo) of elite LT prospects worthy of being a top 6 pick, i agree with you not to take an o-lineman. i don't use that high of a pick on a guard or someone who likely sticks at RT.

    my preference would be for an offensive playmaker, but you need to stay true to your draft board. so i wouldn't pigeonhole the pick to either QB or WR
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    Post by GratefulJet on Wed 28 Jan 2015 - 10:41

    To be fair, Poindexter, there's first round picks...and there's first round picks. I don't think the Patriots have selected close to #6 overall in the Belichick era, so your actual point has some validity. I agree this team needs elite playmakers on offense, and you don't find those as often in the later rounds. I'd like to see us find one or two in this draft. Pedestrian players give you pedestrian results.
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    Post by Pointdexter on Wed 28 Jan 2015 - 11:09

    The problem with QB is that Tampa Bay is selecting one and there is no way they are trading out. Barring something weird happening in the lead-up to the draft, they are taking Winston #1 and will not entertain trade offers.

    That leaves us probably having to make a move up for Mariota and the question is: Is he worth it?

    That brings me back to either Cooper or DGB at #6, FA/trade for QB (Bradford, Locker, Cousins, Glennon, Anderson), and then an additional middle round guy at QB (Petty, Grayson, Hundley, Mannion).
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    Post by GratefulJet on Wed 28 Jan 2015 - 11:37

    Or trade down for more picks.
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    Post by football51 on Wed 28 Jan 2015 - 12:46

    Benjamin Allbright @AllbrightNFL · 2h 2 hours ago
    Finishing out all the tape work, there are 5 draftable QBs in this class, with 1-2 fringe "on the fence" grades.



    Benjamin Allbright @AllbrightNFL · 2h 2 hours ago
    Winston, Mariota, Hundley, Petty, Grayson are draftable. After that... Bridge and Bonner are tools guys that need refinement.
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    Post by Blindsidebrick on Wed 28 Jan 2015 - 15:09

    Pointdexter wrote:Lol, lesson learned.  

    I just think drafting #6, and the way we continue to waste opportunities to select difference makers on the offensive side of the ball, it's high time we seize this opportunity.  Unless there is an Orlando Pace kind of talent (and there's nothing close in this draft), drafting OL at #6 makes no sense to me.  

    For me, I think we try to make a play for one of the two QB's or go after DGB/Amari Cooper.  One guy (Cooper) was unstoppable in the SEC for the last 2 years, and the other guy (DGB) is 6'6, 225, runs a sub 4.5 and was an all-sec performer in just his sophomore year at Mizzou.


    I think you can argue both sides. Playmakers are needed on this offense. Someone along the lines of Amari Cooper. But for those (like myself) who believe in building the trenches as a starting point, you could make Scherff the pick. If the value doesn't line up, trade back a few spots and take him later.

    The only two positions I wouldn't like at #6 are defensive line and running back. (And of course no kickers, punters, long snappers, or fullbacks). We have so many needs, I don't think you can go wrong. It's gotta be BPA, or someone your scouts and GM have fallen in love with. A can't-miss prospect.
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    Post by football51 on Wed 28 Jan 2015 - 15:58

    Tony Pauline @TonyPauline · 1h 1 hour ago
    Many sleeping on Xzavier Dickson/Alabama; terrific 3-4 OLB prospect. Can rush the passer or play in space. Rebounded in '14 after poor '13
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    Post by football51 on Wed 4 Feb 2015 - 15:47

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    Post by football51 on Wed 4 Feb 2015 - 18:30

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    Post by Superman55 on Wed 4 Feb 2015 - 22:41


    One of the rumors is Cleveland may try to move up, packaging some of their 10 picks, to grab him. I wonder if someone will really sell their future on a Qb with so many warts.
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    Post by football51 on Thu 5 Feb 2015 - 18:49

    Tony Pauline @TonyPauline · Feb 4
    For those measuring, P.J. Williams/CB/Florida State posted a 41.5-inch vertical jump during combine training in past week.



    Tony Pauline @TonyPauline · Feb 3
    Impressed as hell by Danielle Hunter/LSU after watching film. Athletic, instinctive, can rush the passer & play in space. Top 45 material




    Tony Pauline @TonyPauline · Feb 3
    Also like the 2nd/3rd tier safety's coming from SEC: Ronald Martin/LSU, Nick Perry/Alabama, Robenson Therezie/Auburn & Braylon Webb/Mizzou

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    Post by football51 on Fri 6 Feb 2015 - 15:15

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    Post by Superman55 on Fri 6 Feb 2015 - 15:47


    ewwwww....

    After taking Santana Moss in the first round of the 2001 NFL Draft. Here is the full list of offensive skill position players the Jets have taken before the 4th round: Chris Baker, BJ Askew, Kellen Clemens, Mark Sanchez, Shonn Greene, Stephen Hill, Geno Smith, Jace Amaro.
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    Post by cysporsche on Sat 7 Feb 2015 - 11:38

    I'm not hearing Trae Waynes CB 6'1"182 from Michigan St. name being mentioned a lot; however, this kid might be the best CB in this years draft. He's tall, fast, great hips and recovery speed. He'd be a nice #2 next to Milliner. I can't wait until he's healthy, because a few Jet posters will be eating crow !!!! Rolling Eyes

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