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    Jets working out olinemen

    Post by Superman55 on Tue 9 Sep 2014 - 22:05

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    By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com
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    The New York Jets worked out several free agents Tuesday, including two veteran guards -- Doug Legursky (most recently of the Buffalo Bills) and Jeff Baca (Minnesota Vikings).

    Legursky, a five-year vet, started 11 games last season for the Bills. Baca was a sixth-round pick of the Vikings in 2013.

    The Jets are solid at guard with starters Willie Colon and Brian Winters. The backups are Oday Aboushi and rookie Dakota Dozier, neither of whom has played in an NFL game. Chances are, the Jets are formulating a short list of options in the event of an injury.

    They also auditioned punters and a long snapper, none of whom have regular-season experience.

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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by cysporsche on Wed 10 Sep 2014 - 11:47

    Personally, I think we are loaded and in great shape on our OL ? I appreciate Idzik turning over every rock; however, I think we need to be more concerned in other areas like CB or WR ? Champ Bailey & Eric Berry CB's are both available, and I understand the Chiefs are still "secretly" shopping WR Dwayne Bowe.
    I think when McDougle returns next season, it will only leave one huge void, and that's locating a true #1 WR in the draft or free agency. Please note, I think Idzik is doing a wonderful job of building this team for a serious run @ a Super Bowl next season.

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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by Superman55 on Wed 10 Sep 2014 - 12:04

    cysporsche wrote:Personally, I think we are loaded and in great shape on our OL ? I appreciate Idzik turning over every rock; however, I think we need to be more concerned in other areas like CB or WR ? Champ Bailey & Eric Berry CB's are both available, and I understand the Chiefs are still "secretly" shopping WR Dwayne Bowe.
    I think when McDougle returns next season, it will only leave one huge void, and that's locating a true #1 WR in the draft or free agency. Please note, I think Idzik is doing a wonderful job of building this team for a serious run @ a Super Bowl next season.

    Go Jets...Cyborg

    mcDougle will take Wilson's roster spot next year and PT. I think we'll still be in the market for a #2 CB next spring.
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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by SackExchange on Wed 10 Sep 2014 - 12:30

    The only way the Jets aren't in the market for a #2 CB is if Allen really does show that he has what it takes.
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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by football51 on Wed 10 Sep 2014 - 17:14

    Rich Cimini [ltr]@RichCimini[/ltr] · 2h
    [ltr]Colon expects to play. Described it as nagging calf injury. Winters with large wrap on right elbow. Maybe why worked out 2 Gs yesterday[/ltr]
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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by Sarge on Wed 10 Sep 2014 - 17:22

    Teams work out players all the time. If a player looks good, they might get added to the practice squad or get an invite to camp next year.  I think that's how we found Hakim, but not sure on that
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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by SackExchange on Wed 10 Sep 2014 - 18:53

    It's commonplace. Sarge is absolutely right. It's also indicative of a smart and hard-working front office.
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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by football51 on Tue 16 Sep 2014 - 18:25

    Field Yates [ltr]@FieldYates[/ltr] · 27m
    [ltr]More notable workouts:
    Jets - LB's Pat Angerer & Desmond Bishop, WR Tiquan Underwood
    [/ltr]



    Rich Cimini [ltr]@RichCimini[/ltr] · 18m
    [ltr]Jets workouts today included former Dolphins QB Pat Devlin. #nyj[/ltr]
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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by Sarge on Tue 16 Sep 2014 - 23:34

    I like Angerer ....if he's healthy he's better than Edds

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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by Old#15 on Wed 17 Sep 2014 - 8:10

    Sarge wrote:I like Angerer ....if he's healthy he's better than Edds


    Great name for a LB.
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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by Superman55 on Wed 17 Sep 2014 - 13:28

    Wonder if Aboushi's reps increase this week.  They seemed high on him heading into the season.  I'd like to see him get a crack at PT if Winters continues to struggle.
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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by football51 on Fri 26 Sep 2014 - 17:24

    Howard Balzer @HBalzer721 · 22m
    WR T.J. Graham had tryout with Jets.





    Howard Balzer @HBalzer721 · 12m
    Jets also had visit, but no tryout with, WR Chris Owusu.
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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by HYATT™ on Fri 26 Sep 2014 - 19:30

    What IS this unbridled optimism over McDougle?
    Kreist on a pogo stick, he hasn't even seen a football field in over a year - 2 years by the time he gets healthy again - and he starts out NFL life as a midget CB in a big boy WR league.
    It's downright retarded is what it is.
    Way to slide on the G&W glasses people.
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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by cysporsche on Fri 26 Sep 2014 - 22:53

    HYATT™ wrote:What IS this unbridled optimism over McDougle?
    Kreist on a pogo stick, he hasn't even seen a football field in over a year - 2 years by the time he gets healthy again - and he starts out NFL life as a midget CB in a big boy WR league.
    It's downright retarded is what it is.
    Way to slide on the G&W glasses people.
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    5'10"/196 qualifies as a midget ? Question

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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by Lakerfan1980 on Sat 27 Sep 2014 - 7:09

    Right now we can't count on Miliner ever being a quality corner, how can we pencil in McDougle? Hopefully he returns to full health, and not be another Ras-I-Dowling, a guy drafted off the injured list and never stays healthy.
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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by HYATT™ on Sun 28 Sep 2014 - 2:32

    cysporsche wrote:
    HYATT™ wrote:What IS this unbridled optimism over McDougle?
    Kreist on a pogo stick, he hasn't even seen a football field in over a year - 2 years by the time he gets healthy again - and he starts out NFL life as a midget CB in a big boy WR league.
    It's downright retarded is what it is.
    Way to slide on the G&W glasses people.
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    5'10"/196 qualifies as a midget ?  Question

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    In an Alshon Jeffery / Brandon Marshall / Megatron / Kelvin Benjamin / Mike Evans / Jordy Nelson / Dez Bryant / Demaryius Thomas / Andre Johnson / Eric Decker / Larry Fitzgerald / V-JAX / Marques Colston / Michael Floyd / Dwayne Bowe / Cordarelle Patterson / Josh Gordon /  A. J. Green / Julio Jones League?
    You damn well better believe he qualifies as a midget CB - and he doesn't possess half the ability that allows Jonathan Joseph or Leon Hall to survive as midgets, either.
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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by Lakerfan1980 on Sun 28 Sep 2014 - 9:07

    Jets are going to have to spend some money next off-season for a quality corner. No way can they depend on McDougle to be a starter, or even one of the top 3 corners. The team also can not draft another defensive player in round 1.
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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by football51 on Fri 10 Oct 2014 - 17:03

    Rich Cimini @RichCimini · 4m 4 minutes ago
    The Jets tried out former Jaguars G Michael Brewster today. #nyj
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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by HYATT™ on Sat 11 Oct 2014 - 17:50

    This is going to be a particularly vexing year to have OL troubles, because the 2015 OL draft class is as thin on talent as HYATT™ has witnessed in over a decade.
    Short of A&M's Cedric Ogbuehi & Iowa's Brandon Scherff, there isn't a Rd 1-caliber OT on either end of the OL available in 2015.
    Center will be extraordinarily bereft of talent and we probably don't see one drafted before the middle or end of Rd 3.
    There is no conversation about OGs, because again, aside from S.C.'s A.J. Cann, none of them deserve to be drafted before the end of Rd 2 or possibly Rd 3.
    Woe be to those with OL troubles because there is no help coming in the 2015 draft and the 2015 UFA class of OL will be so overpriced it could kill a team's cap to sign (2).

    Ditto the TE class.
    By the time the daft rolls around HYATT™ is sure SOME TE will be smoked up enough to get a late Rd 1 or early Rd 2 grade, but it'll be all smoke and mirrors and whomever that TE is, the team drafting him will find themselves with a bench art critic.

    Want a possession slot receiver? (#2 or "Y")
    Good luck with that too.
    The 2015 WR class will NOT be noted for it's "sure hands".

    The strengths of the 2015 draft class will be at QB, Flanker WRs - again, CB, FS, & pass-rushing specialist 4-3 DEs/3-4 OLBs.
    This is where the Jets must concentrate their efforts next year.
    It's actually more a "Jets draft class" than any in recent memory, given Pace and Babin are aging out, CB (& FS) are an ongoing problem since Revis and then Cro left, no WR depth beyond Wrecker, and of course the perennial 30 year search for a franchise QB.

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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by jamesfyo123 on Sun 12 Oct 2014 - 20:25

    League source says that the Jets fear Winters has a torn ACL

    Sounds like we'll get to see what Aboushi is made of.

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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by skop on Tue 14 Oct 2014 - 15:05

    wouldn't it have been wise to use some of the 24 million left on the table for a few quality olinemen over the summer...you know, when you could have signed one?
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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by SackExchange on Tue 14 Oct 2014 - 15:08

    skop wrote:wouldn't it have been wise to use some of the 24 million left on the table for a few quality olinemen over the summer...you know, when you could have signed one?
    Hey, welcome to the board, skop! Glad you made it over.

    I think you may be right, but I also think that nobody expected Winters, Colon, and Breno to be as shaky as they've been. I live for OL play, and I didn't even expect it.
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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by Superman55 on Tue 14 Oct 2014 - 15:18

    HYATT™ wrote:This is going to be a particularly vexing year to have OL troubles, because the 2015 OL draft class is as thin on talent as HYATT™ has witnessed in over a decade.
    Short of A&M's Cedric Ogbuehi & Iowa's Brandon Scherff, there isn't a Rd 1-caliber OT on either end of the OL available in 2015.
    Center will be extraordinarily bereft of talent and we probably don't see one drafted before the middle or end of Rd 3.
    There is no conversation about OGs, because again, aside from S.C.'s A.J. Cann, none of them deserve to be drafted before the end of Rd 2 or possibly Rd 3.
    Woe be to those with OL troubles because there is no help coming in the 2015 draft and the 2015 UFA class of OL will be so overpriced it could kill a team's cap to sign (2).

    Ditto the TE class.
    By the time the daft rolls around HYATT™ is sure SOME TE will be smoked up enough to get a late Rd 1 or early Rd 2 grade, but it'll be all smoke and mirrors and whomever that TE is, the team drafting him will find themselves with a bench art critic.

    Want a possession slot receiver? (#2 or "Y")
    Good luck with that too.
    The 2015 WR class will NOT be noted for it's "sure hands".

    The strengths of the 2015 draft class will be at QB, Flanker WRs - again, CB, FS, & pass-rushing specialist 4-3 DEs/3-4 OLBs.
    This is where the Jets must concentrate their efforts next year.
    It's actually more a "Jets draft class" than any in recent memory, given Pace and Babin are aging out, CB (& FS) are an ongoing problem since Revis and then Cro left, no WR depth beyond Wrecker, and of course the perennial 30 year search for a franchise QB.

    Williams is a little dude, about McDougle's size, who starts opposite "The Shield" and is a free agent this spring.  Are you okay with him signing here next spring?  Any value in him as a borderline #1 to go opposite brittle Milliner?

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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by skop on Tue 14 Oct 2014 - 15:20

    SackExchange wrote:
    skop wrote:wouldn't it have been wise to use some of the 24 million left on the table for a few quality olinemen over the summer...you know, when you could have signed one?
    Hey, welcome to the board, skop! Glad you made it over.

    I think you may be right, but I also think that nobody expected Winters, Colon, and Breno to be as shaky as they've been. I live for OL play, and I didn't even expect it.


    Sack, thanks!! I freaked out when I visited the old board. I have been in transition with a new job, getting in a new office, new systems...lots to do. Missed you guys!

    I think we have the Ivory packages dialed in when he's at tailback, and the line looks very good at times. We look shaky with CJ, and my gut tells me that we need to the line pulling and the LOS extended for him to show us what makes him special.

    I don't put the blame squarely on them fro looking shaky. Rex seems to love the wild cat, option type of stuff. I know that you're supposed to play the play called, but give these guys a chance to get some momentum...please. Furthermore, Geno has to get some help from his WRs. I get the feeling he is pressing if they drop a few early, holding on to it, and then getting clobbered.

    Missed you guys. glad to see you! Now, where is that Sanchez thread...just kidding!!!
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    Re: Jets working out olinemen

    Post by SackExchange on Tue 14 Oct 2014 - 15:23

    You know, Sanchez couldn't be doing much worse than what we've been getting!

    I think you are right about CJ. Ivory can do some things between the tackles. To me, he's a poor man's Marshawn Lynch. But you can use CJ more laterally, and they haven't done enough of that. It seems like there has been too much of an attempt to use him in the passing game, and it sort of feels forced.

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