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    Geno Smith

    Post by Superman55 on Mon 8 Sep 2014 - 21:13


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    The first step for Geno Smith toward becoming an improved thrower for the New York Jets in 2014 is mastery of the short pass.

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    Jets starting quarterback Geno Smith didn't air it out in Week 1 -- a stark change from 2013.
    Despite two turnovers (including a fumble deep in Oakland Raiders' territory) and a 32.3 Total QBR, Smith had a good day in one respect. Smith finished with the third-best, single-game completion percentage in Jets' history (minimum 20 attempts), and that was largely due to a dominance with the short throw previously unseen from him.

    Video review showed that Smith completed 17 of 19 throws that were in the air no more than five yards. In his last two games of 2013, which were two of Smith’s better games of the season, he totaled 18 such completions on 34 attempts. His 60-percent completion rate on such throws in 2013 was the worst of any quarterback who played in at least 10 games.

    Smith’s performance was epitomized by the drive that resulted in Chris Johnson's touchdown 31 seconds before halftime. He went 5-for-7 on that drive, completing passes to five different receivers. All 55 yards passing came as the result of yards gained after the catch.

    The short-passing emphasis marked a notable change in strategy from last season.

    Highest Completion Percentage
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    Chad Pennington 2002 Vikings 82.8%
    Ken O'Brien 1991 Browns 82.6%
    Geno Smith 2014 Raiders 82.1%
    Chad Pennington 2007 Bills 82.1%
    In 2013, passes that short accounted for less than half of Smith’s attempts (47 percent to be exact). On this day, they represented more than two-thirds of his throws (68 percent).

    Smith completed his final 10 pass attempts of the game, and of those, only one was longer than four yards.

    Smith did throw one interception, but even that comes with a positive caveat.

    The interception came on a throw outside the numbers on the right side of the field.

    Overall, Smith went 9-for-11 for 80 yards on throws to that area. Last season, he only completed 47 percent of his throws there.
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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by Superman55 on Mon 8 Sep 2014 - 23:49

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    FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- The important thing to remember with Geno Smith is he's still a young, developing quarterback, with only 17 career starts. Don't expect the growing pains to disappear just because he's no longer a rookie. Evaluations should be based on improvement, signs of progress. Evidently, Rex Ryan liked what he saw in the New York Jets' season opener because Monday he gushed, "I just see the arrow going up. I'm so encouraged by it."

    The biggest positive was Smith's accuracy. He completed 23 of 28 passes, including two drops -- a rather remarkable performance when you consider he was in such a funk at times last season that he couldn't have completed that many against air. He finished the game with a career-high 11 straight completions. Some perspective: He failed to reach 11 completions in four games last season.

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    Three bad plays against the Raiders showed that Geno Smith is still developing as an NFL quarterback.
    The Jets' quarterback-starved fan base, waiting 40 years for a true franchise player at the most important position, wants so desperately to throw its arms around Smith and embrace him as The Guy. But it can't yet, because for all the good things that happened in Sunday's win over the Oakland Raiders, there were three plays that reminded everyone he's still a work in progress.

    Three bad plays out of 65 doesn't seem that egregious, but those three plays cost the Jets at least 13 points -- a pretty big deal in a 19-14 game. There was the fumble at the Raiders' 4-yard line, the interception at his own 30 that set up a short-field touchdown for the Raiders and the unnecessary sack that took the Jets out of field goal range at a time when it was a one-possession game in the fourth quarter.

    On Monday, Smith said the turnovers bothered him more than anything because they directly impacted the scoreboard. Charles Woodson made a great catch on the interception, resembling a shortstop diving for a line drive up the middle, but the wise, old safety also did a nice job of baiting the young quarterback. In retrospect, Smith said he should've thrown it sooner or not at all.

    "Anytime you throw an interception, no matter what happens, it's not the right decision," said Smith, who has become an expert at explaining interceptions. "In that instance, I may have been trusting my arm too much."

    His fumble at the 4-yard line was a tough deal because it was a designed run, and it's tough for any competitor -- even a quarterback -- to slide and give himself up when he's that close to the goal line. So he went in hard, got blasted by two tacklers and coughed up the ball, one of a few big hits he absorbed in the game. Ryan wants Smith to be careful, but he also wants him to run when no one is open, so it's a balancing act.

    "I may have been amped up for the first game," Smith said. "In the future, I'll definitely get down and slide."

    Smith put it well, saying the quarterback has to be "a master of situational football." That's a fancy way of saying he needs to be a game manager. That's what Ryan wants. With a strong running game and a solid defense, he doesn't need Smith to be Tom Brady. He just can't be Brady Quinn. If Smith can protect the ball and throw completions, the Jets have a chance to do something special.

    Clearly, he's not there yet.
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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by JohnnyBaseball on Tue 9 Sep 2014 - 4:02

    I hate the way the media coalesce over a narrative for each game, and then just ride it and ride it. No matter how little resemblance what they're saying has to what actually happened, they will always just agree with one another, so what they say becomes conventional wisdom. Since they're so wrong all the time, it's annoying that they retain credibility and the ability to set the narratives for the team.

    The way that they have described what happened in the game yesterday is so far from how the game actually progressed, it is almost comical. The Jets dominated that game from beginning to end. The final score only seemed close because of a garbage time TD. Geno played very well, albeit with a few mistakes. One big time player on the Raiders stepped up and made a big time play, and they capitalized by scoring a TD, but that's part of the flow of a football game.

    That's the worst thing about the media, they can never capture the way the game flowed from one situation to the next. They'll tell you what happened, and it will be factually true, but they generally just don't accurately capture the feel of the game as it progressed. The Jets were the better team yesterday. They deserved to win. You don't get that sense from the media discussion of the game.



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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by Superman55 on Tue 9 Sep 2014 - 6:56

    I'd be interested to hear what Nick thinks, but I loved what I saw. It's year 2, guess what, he's still going to make mistakes. Seriously go many years have Brady, Rivers, Romo, Cutler, and Rodgers been in the league? Did they give their team a chance to win this week? No. It doesn't matter how long you've been in the league, this league is too tough to not have a few slip ups. I think people Are being over critical. He looks better in game 17 than guys like Kaepernick, Brees, and Alex Smith did by far (Kaepernick only threw for 205 yards or more 4 times last year).

    I think David Lee said it best when he said better footwork leads to better balance, and better balance leads to better accuracy. I think we say a guy who worked his tail off this offseason and there was an an opus improvement in decision making and accuracy.

    Some of these article I've read would lead you to believe he's a finished product game 17. IMO, he won't e a finished product game 18, 24, or 32...but what I do believe is after game 32 we'll have a Top 15 QB and by game 48 we'll have a top 10 QB and with Rex's D and our run game, that's all we need to be in it every year and be a Perennial playoff team.
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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by Superman55 on Tue 9 Sep 2014 - 8:31

    Green Lantern: A Little Turbulence Aside, Jets Have Capable Pilot In Geno

    Second-Year Quarterback's Maturation Evident During Gang Green's Win Over Raiders
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    Sure, it was just one game, but it was a telling game.
    There’s really no way around it: This Geno Smith is not the same player that some of you have grown to mistrust.
    The Jets’ second-year quarterback made some mistakes during Sunday’s season opener against the Oakland Raiders, but hardly looked like the wide-eyed neophyte he was during much of last season.
    Smith showed a newfound maturity and poise in the 19-14 victory that was often missing in 2013. And while he did turn the ball over twice, errors that got the masses rolling their eyes, they were hardly the types of egregious mistakes he often committed as a rookie.
    Though the game remained tighter on the scoreboard than it really should have been, I never got the feeling that the Jets were ever in danger of losing. The Raiders’ lone touchdown before garbage time came following a Smith turnover at the Jets’ 28 midway through the first quarter. But if you really break down the interception I think it happened more as a result of the young signal-caller’s ego than his lack of football IQ or awareness.
    Smith attempted to muscle a short throw to Eric Decker on a curl route, but was picked off on a spectacular diving stab by ageless Charles Woodson, a player at soon-to-be 38 who would easily be the Jets’ best cornerback and would probably still start for a bunch of teams. Woodson sold out completely on the play and it’s not like he snuck in behind a screen. Smith knew he was there, had space and put some serious mustard on the toss, but Woodson will be admiring his bust in Canton one day for a reason and you saw why. It was just an incredible play.
    If nothing else, Smith needs to chalk that one up to a learning experience taught by one of the NFL’s defensive professors.
    Smith’s other turnover appeared to be a really big deal because of its timing.
    With 2:43 left in the first quarter and the Jets down four, they started an 81-yard, 12-play drive that was mostly carried by the running game. To that point, Smith had shown what some would consider a bit of recklessness as a scrambler, running head first into some pretty big hits. He did the same on a second down keeper from the Raiders’ 3 and paid for it when Sio Moore separated him from the ball and the Jets from possession with a massive jolt. Replay confirmed the ball came loose just before Smith’s knee hit the ground.
    So a beautifully choreographed and executed drive ended with nothing, the Jets were still losing to an inferior opponent and Smith was now coming off turnovers on back-to-back possessions.
    To say the natives were getting restless is putting it mildly. It doesn’t take much to get these natives going.
    Things might have snowballed last year, but in the offseason and all during the preseason Rex Ryan spoke of Geno’s maturity. Michael Vick did the same. And they weren’t just saying it as part of the Jets’ issues with running at the mouth. There is obviously a lot of truth in the head coach and veteran backup’s observations.
    Smith shook off his mistakes before halftime, leading the Jets on a balanced 12-play, 80-yard march that ended with Chris Johnson taking a shovel pass five yards up the middle to the end zone. Smith went 5-of-7 on the drive, completing throws to five different receivers and the Jets, for all intents an purposes, never looked back.
    In all, the Smith-led offense netted 402 yards, with the ground game gaining 212 in part because Geno kept the Raiders’ defense honest by connecting with seven different receivers on his way to a rather remarkable 23-of-28 line. The Jets simply were unpredictable when they had the ball. It’s not very often you get to say that.
    Smith’s 82 percent completion was the best league-wide on Sunday and far and away the finest effort of his short career.
    In addition, his 96.6 rating was higher than 15 of his 16 starts last season.
    So what does it all mean? At the very least it means the Jets no longer have a one-dimensional offense. If someone uses the term “ground and pound” in your presence, walk away from them quickly. When was the last time an opposing defense had to respect the Jets’ passing offense? Well, they have to now to a degree. And when you think about just how good the running gameand defense could be, it’s hard to imagine the Jets not being in every game this season.
    Up next they have the Packers in Green Bay. I think that game will be more about us finding out what the Jets’ much-maligned secondary really is because it wasn’t tested much by Raiders rookie quarterback Derek Carr on Sunday. Aaron Rodgers and the toys he has at his disposal are enough to scare the hell out of any team, this side of Seattle. But does the Packers’ defense scare you? From what we’ve seen it shouldn’t scare the Jets, considering the style of offense they play — bruising and up-tempo.
    Having a competent and balanced offense will give the Jets a fighting chance every week. It will take significant pressure off of Ryan’s defense and allow the secondary to develop at a more fair pace instead of having to hear about doomsday scenarios from fans and reporters the second someone completes a long pass. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with having a good defense that sometimes allows 20 points in a 10-point win. The Jets are shaping up to be a lot more like that kind of team than one that has unrealistic expectations of holding opponents to just one touchdown every week.
    Geno Smith is the key to everything the Jets hope to be this season. He’s been the ball game since the tears flowed in the locker room in Miami last December. And while everyone is freaking out about the so-called murderer’s row of quarterbacks the Jets will face over their next six games, how about we focus instead on the quarterback they have?
    Because if he does his job, it’s likely not going to matter as much what the opponents’ signal-callers do. The Jets’ defense is good enough to keep this team in every game and perhaps win some depending on the situation.
    But to be on the safe side, Smith now has to show he’s good enough to win any game regardless of the scenario.
    I think Sunday started to give us all an indication that the job the Jets did grooming this kid — from sticking by him to putting the screws to him somewhat — is paying off — and it’s beginning to pay off big.
    The kid is still going to make mistakes, but it’s how he reacts to those mistakes that will tell the story.
    If Sunday was any indication, the Jets are going to be all right.
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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by JohnnyBaseball on Tue 9 Sep 2014 - 12:50

    Superman55 wrote:I'd be interested to hear what Nick thinks, but I loved what I saw.  It's year 2, guess what, he's still going to make mistakes.  Seriously go many years have Brady, Rivers, Romo, Cutler, and Rodgers been in the league?  Did they give their team a chance to win this week?  No.  It doesn't matter how long you've been in the league, this league is too tough to not have a few slip ups.  I think people Are being over critical.  He looks better in game 17 than guys like Kaepernick, Brees, and Alex Smith did by far (Kaepernick only threw for 205 yards or more 4 times last year).

    I think David Lee said it best when he said better footwork leads to better balance, and better balance leads to better accuracy.  I think we say a guy who worked his tail off this offseason and there was an an opus improvement in decision making and accuracy.

    Some of these article I've read would lead you to believe he's a finished product game 17.  IMO, he won't e a finished product game 18, 24, or 32...but what I do believe is after game 32 we'll have a Top 15 QB and by game 48 we'll have a top 10 QB and with Rex's D and our run game, that's all we need to be in it every year and be a Perennial playoff team.

    I totally agree. In addition to better footwork leading to better accuracy, I think that some experience will (hopefully) lead to better decisions. Those two things together add up to a better QB. I generally think that the media underrates our players and team (although it may be more that I overrate them), and I think that we have a chance of being a very good team, if Geno can play at a high level.

    Also, a better offense would help our defense immeasurably. Too many people treat defense and offense like they're not related in any way. But having a bigger cushion to work with and being on the field for less time every game can only help, IMO. It could have a pretty big effect. 19-14 looks like a close game (it wasn't really). Score 30, and all of a sudden 14 looks like a much smaller number.
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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by football51 on Tue 9 Sep 2014 - 14:36

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    Geno Smith had the highest completion percentage (82.1) in the NFL among qualifying QBs in Week 1. #nyj
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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by NickSINYC on Tue 9 Sep 2014 - 15:11

    Superman55 wrote:I'd be interested to hear what Nick thinks

    I posted on the other board before we left that even though I have never been high on Geno and had no real idea if he would end up being a top 1/3 or bottom 1/3 qb. After seeing his progression in training camp and preseason. I was impressed that he improved in every area I was concerned about. I think he will be a top 1/3 QB in this league.

    Although I was not please with a few mistakes at key moments in the game he did nothing to change my opinion. I think he was 14th in the passer ratings this week a little outside the top 1/3 but close enough and moving in the right direction.

    BTW I am still high on Manual but happy Geno is here now
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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by Superman55 on Tue 9 Sep 2014 - 15:19

    NickSINYC wrote:
    Superman55 wrote:I'd be interested to hear what Nick thinks

    I posted on the other board before we left that even though I have never been high on Geno and had no real idea if he would end up being a top 1/3 or bottom 1/3 qb. After seeing his progression in training camp and preseason. I was impressed that he improved in every area I was concerned about. I think he will be a top 1/3 QB in this league.

    Although I was not please with a few mistakes at key moments in the game he did nothing to change my opinion. I think he was 14th in the passer ratings this week a little outside the top 1/3 but close enough and moving in the right direction.

    BTW I am still high on Manual but happy Geno is here now

    I predict the Bills will have a new owner, GM, Coach, and QB in 2015.

    Manual is currently the worst starting QB in the NFL. His stats may not show it, but I predict by the end of the year, he'll be bottom 4-5. The guy painfully doesn't have it...any of it, but we'll see, Nick. He has Josh Freeman written all over him.

    But I am going to be wrong about Benjamin, so maybe I'll be wrong about his former teammate.
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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by NickSINYC on Tue 9 Sep 2014 - 15:26

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    Superman55 wrote:I'd be interested to hear what Nick thinks

    I predict the Bills will have a new owner, GM, Coach, and QB in 2015.

    Manual is currently the worst starting QB in the NFL.  His stats may not show it, but I predict by the end of the year, he'll be bottom 4-5.  The guy painfully doesn't have it...any of it, but we'll see, Nick.  He has Josh Freeman written all over him.

    But I am going to be wrong about Benjamin, so maybe I'll be wrong about his former teammate.

    I was high on and wrong about Freeman. I can't help myself the same way I have a type when it comes to woman ( Slim Red hair Green eyes ) I have a QB type and both Freeman and Manuel fit the mold. Only time will tell so lets sit back and enjoy the ride.
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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by Superman55 on Wed 10 Sep 2014 - 12:08

    NY Daily News -

    If a breakout is coming for Geno Smith in year two, precedent indicates it should come early in the season. The Jets are hoping their young quarterback improves after his rough introduction a year ago, when he threw 21 interceptions compared to 12 touchdowns.

    Smith, drafted in the second round a year ago, has potential, and the Jets have backed him with the belief that there may be better days in his future. But if Smith is going to play significantly better in his second season, when can the fans and the team expect to see it?

    The News took a look at active quarterbacks who improved their QB rating by at least 10 points (minimum six starts) from their first to second years. There were eight who met the criteria: Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Nick Foles, Josh Freeman, Carson Palmer, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder and... Mark Sanchez. (Note: Freeman is not currently on an NFL roster.)

    The players posted an average quarterback rating of 67.7 in their rookie year and 89.6 in their sophomore season. And, remarkably, in the first half of the schedule started in their second season, all eight quarterbacks posted an average QB rating closer to their sophomore average than their first-year average.

    The data suggest that if there is going to be significant improvement from year one to year two, that it is likely to reveal itself early as opposed to a steady growth throughout the course of the year.

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    That should be good news for the Jets, as they’ll want to find out if Smith is a better player in his second season sooner rather than later. Certainly, they believe he is, as the coaching staff has repeatedly expressed confidence in him — “I see the arrow going up on him,” Rex Ryan said on Tuesday — but the real test comes in games.

    Smith had a decent start to the season in the Jets’ 19-14 win over the Raiders last week, when he completed 23 of 28 pass attempts for 221 yards and a touchdown, but also had an interception, a lost fumble, and a fumble he recovered himself.

    Of course, the Jets signed Michael Vick as an insurance policy for a reason. If Smith fails to prove he’s a better quarterback than he was as a rookie, expect the veteran to take his place.

    It’s worth noting that the above research is not without its faults: QB rating is an imperfect measurement of a quarterback’s ability, the cut-off of a 10-point bump in QB rating is arbitrary and it looks only at quarterbacks who did break out in their second season.
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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by SackExchange on Wed 10 Sep 2014 - 12:42

    I'm not sure he will ever be a Top 5, but I do think he can be a Top 10 QB. And this year, I think he could easily be middle of the pack, 15th or so.

    Of course, the perception is already out there that he is awful, and that is always difficult to overcome, especially with the uniform he's wearing. I predicted after the Raiders game that we would hear more about the pick, fumble, and sack than about 23-28. And true to form, we have.

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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by soj on Thu 11 Sep 2014 - 18:46

    Last week's game was really the 1st time I saw Geno since last year and I was impressed with his growth.  I read all the reports, etc. etc. but wanted to see if his pocket awareness, footwork and decision making was better and at laeast for one game it was abeit the three turnovers.  If he does learn form his mistakes - as he said he would - then this guy could be our QB of the future.
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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by Superman55 on Thu 18 Sep 2014 - 9:31

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    FLORHAM PARK, N.J. — The New York Jets had just seen a tying touchdown erased from the scoreboard by an ill-timed timeout call when Geno Smith and the offense huddled up again.
    There was no whining about what could have been. No frustration from the quarterback, either.
    The Jets still needed to convert a fourth-down play to give themselves a chance against the Green Bay Packers. The game was on the line, and Smith was as cool and calm as ever.
    "He wasn't worried about that play," wide receiver Jeremy Kerley said Wednesday. "He was worried about the next play. That showed a lot of character on his part."
    So, the second-year quarterback went right back to work and converted on fourth down — again — with a 6-yard pass to David Nelson on fourth-and-4 from the Packers 36. The drive was still alive, and so were the Jets.
    "That right there was a really good test," Kerley said. "I think the big transformation between Geno from last year to this year is his poise. He has definitely shown to be, not necessarily a different guy, but his poise is definitely starting to show.
    "That's one thing I pride him on and I think it's going to carry this team."
    The Jets' drive stalled after that conversion and the Packers ran out the clock to hang on for a 31-24 victory. It was a frustrating end to a game in which the Jets held an 18-point lead at one point, but Smith had them in position to tie it in the final moments.
    Small consolation, as far as he is concerned.
    "The fact that we went back out there and got the fourth down, that's a positive thing," Smith said. "We're still fighting, but we should've scored. My opinion, we should've scored. We should've went down on that drive and tied it up, but we didn't. Hats off to Green Bay, but that's over with.
    "We've got the Bears coming up and we'll be ready for them."
    It took a lot for Smith to get to that point, though. After the loss — on the flight home, the next day reviewing film and the days before finally getting back on the field Wednesday — the missed opportunities ate away at him.
    "It took me until today's practice," he said. "I was (ticked) off for about two days, so today's practice allowed me to flush that out of my system and just get back to playing football."
    Smith prides himself on being able to put mistakes and losses behind him quickly, pushing forward to the next challenge. This time, though, was different.
    "We lost," he said. "Anytime you lose, I hate losing. That's really what happened. I was pretty upset about it."
    He finished 16 of 32 for 176 yards, including a touchdown pass to Eric Decker, and also ran for a score. Smith also threw an interception that wasn't entirely his fault near the goal line before halftime, a wobbly toss that came as he was hit in his legs. He missed a few receivers who were wide open at times.
    Smith remains a work in progress, a quarterback who flashes at times with terrific plays that make the Jets believe they might have something special.
    There was a third-and-6 play in the third quarter when Smith spun out of what appeared to be a sure sack, found running back Bilal Powell open and flipped him the ball for a 20-yard gain. It led to a tying field goal, and was another example of a quarterback refusing to panic even when the pocket is collapsing around him.
    "Last week, I learned that we're a pretty tough team," Smith said. "We're pretty disciplined. We went in on the road, had a bunch of silent counts, went no huddle and the communication was great. For the most part, we played a clean game, but just didn't come away with enough big plays to win the game.
    "We're still growing."
    Just like their quarterback. And after two games, there have been mistakes, of course. But Smith is showing he's in command as he continues to make progress.
    "He just doesn't get rattled," Kerley said. "We all see that."
    NOTES: Jets coach Rex Ryan dismissed the notion that WR Santonio Holmes, now with the Bears, was a divisive presence in the New York locker room. "I never thought he was a bad teammate," Ryan said. "I absolutely did not think that. I thought he played hard. He tried to mentor some of the younger receivers and the dude won a lot of games for us. He played well for us." ... With 18 penalties in two games, Muhammad Wilkerson getting ejected for fighting against the Packers and the timeout fiasco, some have wondered if the Jets are an undisciplined team. "No, not at all," Ryan insisted. "Has it been perfect? Absolutely not. And that's the thing that we talk about, trying to get better, and maybe there's other areas that we can get better at. Clearly we're going to go for it. We're trying to become an outstanding football team."
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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by football51 on Thu 18 Sep 2014 - 15:44

    Nice pillow.


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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by football51 on Thu 18 Sep 2014 - 16:05

    Joe Caporoso [ltr]@TurnOnTheJets[/ltr] · 20h
    [ltr]This is what Geno Smith saw when he released his INT before half. Sudfeld was wide, wide open. #Jets [/ltr]


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    Joe Caporoso [ltr]@TurnOnTheJets[/ltr] · 20h
    [ltr]Discussing this in passing game breakdown but this was not a bad call or a bad read. It was poor blocking and poor effort from the TE.[/ltr]


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    [ltr]You don't go in conservative shell because you are up 21-9 in first half, especially against Rodgers on the road. Play to win #Jets[/ltr]




    Joe Caporoso [ltr]@TurnOnTheJets[/ltr] · 20h
    [ltr]Play worked. Sudfeld was open. Geno made proper read was smashed by Winters guy and Sudfeld made zero effort to break up INT #Jets[/ltr]

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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by football51 on Thu 18 Sep 2014 - 16:11

    The copy/paste of that picture is horrible. You can't even see Sudfeld, who is truely wide open.
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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by football51 on Fri 19 Sep 2014 - 13:00

    Matt Williamson of Espn's Scout's Inc, always is hard on the Jets, but apparently, Geno is impressing him. From his wednesday chat....





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    Most improved player through 2 weeks? Geno?
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    I am sure there are others, but I can't say that I see a more improved QB than Geno



    Also, Greg Cosell was on Espn's The Herd  and said that Geno easily passes the eye ball test and has shown tremendous growth from last season. Cossel praised Smith's ability to stand in the pocket and take a hit which he said is a trait all great qb's have.

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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by lnap23 on Fri 19 Sep 2014 - 13:14

    One thing that helps poor OL play, see Aaron Rodgers, is reading the D and getting rid of the ball quicker..  Not faulting Geno but Sudifeld was wide open from the snap.  Geno needs to see that and immediately make that throw to be a top 10 QB.... I think he will get there and get there sooner rather than later.
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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by Superman55 on Fri 19 Sep 2014 - 15:53

    lnap23 wrote:One thing that helps poor OL play, see Aaron Rodgers, is reading the D and getting rid of the ball quicker..  Not faulting Geno but Sudifeld was wide open from the snap.  Geno needs to see that and immediately make that throw to be a top 10 QB.... I think he will get there and get there sooner rather than later.


    Disagree.  Geno read it early enough, took the proper three step drop then tried to step into the throw.  Watch the play again, the footwork was perfect.

    Reading the play quicker doesn't change the fact you have to take 3 steps back and 1 forward...and the play was called as a 3 step drop play...Geno was never allowed to step into the throw.  the announcer even called that as the play unfolded...the announcer was Trent Green.

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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by lnap23 on Fri 19 Sep 2014 - 16:09

    Superman55 wrote:
    lnap23 wrote:One thing that helps poor OL play, see Aaron Rodgers, is reading the D and getting rid of the ball quicker..  Not faulting Geno but Sudifeld was wide open from the snap.  Geno needs to see that and immediately make that throw to be a top 10 QB.... I think he will get there and get there sooner rather than later.


    Disagree.  Geno read it early enough, took the proper three step drop then tried to step into the throw.  Watch the play again, the footwork was perfect.

    Reading the play quicker doesn't change the fact you have to take 3 steps back and 1 forward...and the play was called as a 3 step drop play...Geno was never allowed to step into the throw.  the announcer even called that as the play unfolded...the announcer was Trent Green.

    I gotta stick to my guns The coverage write off the snap wasn't there for Amaro...Green is talking about the post snap Geno reads.  Looking at the video Amarao was his 3rd read... Sudifeld is open right off the snap.. Based on his pre snap coverage read he should have looked Amaro's way first... again not blaming him just pointing out the Brady's, Manning's (Peyton LOl), Rodgers, Bree's of the world would have made that read quicker.  WE need Geno to read the defense presnap and go through the proper progressions based on what he see's prior to the snap
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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by Superman55 on Fri 19 Sep 2014 - 17:02

    lnap23 wrote:
    Superman55 wrote:
    lnap23 wrote:One thing that helps poor OL play, see Aaron Rodgers, is reading the D and getting rid of the ball quicker..  Not faulting Geno but Sudifeld was wide open from the snap.  Geno needs to see that and immediately make that throw to be a top 10 QB.... I think he will get there and get there sooner rather than later.


    Disagree.  Geno read it early enough, took the proper three step drop then tried to step into the throw.  Watch the play again, the footwork was perfect.

    Reading the play quicker doesn't change the fact you have to take 3 steps back and 1 forward...and the play was called as a 3 step drop play...Geno was never allowed to step into the throw.  the announcer even called that as the play unfolded...the announcer was Trent Green.

    I gotta stick to my guns The coverage write off the snap wasn't there for Amaro...Green is talking about the post snap Geno reads.  Looking at the video Amarao was his 3rd read... Sudifeld is open right off the snap.. Based on his pre snap coverage read he should have looked Amaro's way first... again not blaming him just pointing out the Brady's, Manning's (Peyton LOl), Rodgers, Bree's of the world would have made that read quicker.  WE need Geno to read the defense presnap and go through the proper progressions based on what he see's prior to the snap


    Okay, obvious non-fan of Geno and a bias opinion.  I see where this is going.  We'll stop here.

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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by lnap23 on Fri 19 Sep 2014 - 18:53

    Superman55 wrote:
    lnap23 wrote:
    Superman55 wrote:
    lnap23 wrote:One thing that helps poor OL play, see Aaron Rodgers, is reading the D and getting rid of the ball quicker..  Not faulting Geno but Sudifeld was wide open from the snap.  Geno needs to see that and immediately make that throw to be a top 10 QB.... I think he will get there and get there sooner rather than later.


    Disagree.  Geno read it early enough, took the proper three step drop then tried to step into the throw.  Watch the play again, the footwork was perfect.

    Reading the play quicker doesn't change the fact you have to take 3 steps back and 1 forward...and the play was called as a 3 step drop play...Geno was never allowed to step into the throw.  the announcer even called that as the play unfolded...the announcer was Trent Green.

    I gotta stick to my guns The coverage write off the snap wasn't there for Amaro...Green is talking about the post snap Geno reads.  Looking at the video Amarao was his 3rd read... Sudifeld is open right off the snap.. Based on his pre snap coverage read he should have looked Amaro's way first... again not blaming him just pointing out the Brady's, Manning's (Peyton LOl), Rodgers, Bree's of the world would have made that read quicker.  WE need Geno to read the defense presnap and go through the proper progressions based on what he see's prior to the snap


    Okay, obvious non-fan of Geno and a bias opinion.  I see where this is going.  We'll stop here.

    Not even close..... I love the progression Geno has made... Totally think he will be our starter for a long time.  I'm just saying the one thing I would like to see him get a little better at is his pre-snap read.  That will help him make quicker decisions.   Not sure where you got I don't like Geno from.  Even when I said I don't blame Geno.  That pre snap read is the difference between an avg starting QB and an above abg starting QB and the great ones are great at it.  I want Geno to be great at it.   Cool overreaction though

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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by lnap23 on Fri 19 Sep 2014 - 18:55

    Superman55 wrote:
    lnap23 wrote:
    Superman55 wrote:
    lnap23 wrote:One thing that helps poor OL play, see Aaron Rodgers, is reading the D and getting rid of the ball quicker..  Not faulting Geno but Sudifeld was wide open from the snap.  Geno needs to see that and immediately make that throw to be a top 10 QB.... I think he will get there and get there sooner rather than later.


    Disagree.  Geno read it early enough, took the proper three step drop then tried to step into the throw.  Watch the play again, the footwork was perfect.

    Reading the play quicker doesn't change the fact you have to take 3 steps back and 1 forward...and the play was called as a 3 step drop play...Geno was never allowed to step into the throw.  the announcer even called that as the play unfolded...the announcer was Trent Green.

    I gotta stick to my guns The coverage write off the snap wasn't there for Amaro...Green is talking about the post snap Geno reads.  Looking at the video Amarao was his 3rd read... Sudifeld is open right off the snap.. Based on his pre snap coverage read he should have looked Amaro's way first... again not blaming him just pointing out the Brady's, Manning's (Peyton LOl), Rodgers, Bree's of the world would have made that read quicker.  WE need Geno to read the defense presnap and go through the proper progressions based on what he see's prior to the snap


    Okay, obvious non-fan of Geno and a bias opinion.  I see where this is going.  We'll stop here.

    Oh and my Geno Jersey I wear every sunday says differently ... Do I need to post a pic to dispel your obvious blown out of proportion estimation of my point? lol!
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    Re: Geno Smith

    Post by SackExchange on Fri 19 Sep 2014 - 18:59

    I saw nothing here to suggest any sort of anti-Geno agenda.

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