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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by SackExchange on Mon 5 Jan 2015 - 22:31

    hobson54 wrote:
    SackExchange wrote:It's pieces like this that drive me crazy.

    http://deadspin.com/nfl-execs-keep-refusing-interviews-for-the-jets-gm-job-1677588269

    Just ignores the fact that these execs turn down everyone, not just the Jets. It's not a Jets thing. But that doesn't fit the LOLJets mantra.

    funny (well not really).  a friend of mine who's a jets fan, but doesn't follow closely like people on this site, sent me this same link saying how the jets are a disaster.  my response was - deadspin?  lol

    then i had to explain to him how the article had no content and didn't mention stuff like decosta turning everyone down or ballard likely getting the bears job, etc.
    I know, it's Deadspin. You're right, it lacks credibility on the surface.
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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by Superman55 on Mon 5 Jan 2015 - 23:29

    Sarge wrote:After a cursory but superficial Google search, this is my expert ranking of the Jets GM candidates that have been interviewed 



    Mike Maccagnan - Houston

    Trent Kirchner - Seattle

    Bill Kuharich - Cleveland 

    Rick Mueller - Philadelphia

    Chris Grier - Miami

    Rod Graves - Jets

    Im not in love with any of these guys (every guy I start to like turns us down). Of these names, you think Maccagnan is higher regarded than Kirchner? You could be 100% correct, Sarge...but wasnt Kirchner in charge of the seattle scouting department? I thought he'd be one of the hotter prospects also.
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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by football51 on Tue 6 Jan 2015 - 17:16

    Maybe Grier's son, Chris, could help us get that special qb.






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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by football51 on Tue 6 Jan 2015 - 17:43



    Joe Caporoso
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    #Jets among teams who have reached out to Scot McCloughan for personnel position. Could he run department under whoever GM ends up being?






    Joe Caporoso
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    I doubt #Jets are going to offer GM role but could they give him Bradway role and have him gut and rebuild scouting/personnel? Let's hope






    Joe Caporoso
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    Getting McCloughan in the mix is a way to ease Quinn's concerns about personnel experience from GM/FO, which has been a reported holdup






    Supposedly, Quinn is unsure if Kirchner is ready for the responsibilities of a gm. Would like him to have a "guide" of sorts.
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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by NickSINYC on Tue 6 Jan 2015 - 17:48


    Scot McCloughan to be Redskins' new general manager
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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by football51 on Tue 6 Jan 2015 - 17:57

    NickSINYC wrote:
    Scot McCloughan to be Redskins' new general manager




    Well, there goes that idea. Maybe Quinn is a Gamble fan?
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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by NickSINYC on Tue 6 Jan 2015 - 18:03

    football51 wrote:
    NickSINYC wrote:
    Scot McCloughan to be Redskins' new general manager




    Well, there goes that idea. Maybe Quinn is a Gamble fan?

    I am a Gamble fan

    I am not sure I an that into a Quinn/Kirchner ticket if Quinn isn't even sure about Kirchner
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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by football51 on Tue 6 Jan 2015 - 18:10

    NickSINYC wrote:
    football51 wrote:
    NickSINYC wrote:
    Scot McCloughan to be Redskins' new general manager




    Well, there goes that idea. Maybe Quinn is a Gamble fan?

    I am a Gamble fan

    I am not sure I an that into a Quinn/Kirchner ticket if Quinn isn't even sure about Kirchner





    I didn't see how the Redskins followed the Rooney Rule with this hire. How were they able to just hire McCloughan without going through the process?

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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by cysporsche on Tue 6 Jan 2015 - 18:15

    football51 wrote:
    NickSINYC wrote:
    football51 wrote:
    NickSINYC wrote:
    Scot McCloughan to be Redskins' new general manager




    Well, there goes that idea. Maybe Quinn is a Gamble fan?

    I am a Gamble fan

    I am not sure I an that into a Quinn/Kirchner ticket if Quinn isn't even sure about Kirchner





    I didn't see how the Redskins followed the Rooney Rule with this hire. How were they able to just hire McCloughan without going through the process?

    I might be wrong, but I think the Rooney Rule only applies for Head Coaching positions, not GM jobs ?

    Go Jets...Cyborg
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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by NickSINYC on Tue 6 Jan 2015 - 18:27

    cysporsche wrote:
    football51 wrote:
    NickSINYC wrote:
    football51 wrote:
    NickSINYC wrote:
    Scot McCloughan to be Redskins' new general manager




    Well, there goes that idea. Maybe Quinn is a Gamble fan?

    I am a Gamble fan

    I am not sure I an that into a Quinn/Kirchner ticket if Quinn isn't even sure about Kirchner





    I didn't see how the Redskins followed the Rooney Rule with this hire. How were they able to just hire McCloughan without going through the process?

    I might be wrong, but I think the Rooney Rule only applies for Head Coaching positions, not GM jobs ?

    Go Jets...Cyborg

    GMs are included also

    For all we know they already did a quiet token interview to satisfy the rule

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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by lnap23 on Tue 6 Jan 2015 - 18:29

    they interviewed Rod Graves to satisfy the Rooney Rule
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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by NickSINYC on Tue 6 Jan 2015 - 18:33

    lnap23 wrote:they interviewed Rod Graves to satisfy the Rooney Rule

    The Rooney conversation was about the Redskins. Are you talking about them? We know the Jers covered their bases with Graves interview.

    Looks like you were talking about the Redskins thanks

    Albert Breer @AlbertBreer · 32m 32 minutes ago
    Sources say Redskins interviewed former Cardinals GM Rod Graves on Monday for their GM position. So Rooney Rule has been met there


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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by hobson54 on Tue 6 Jan 2015 - 18:37

    did the redskins even have a prior GM? i know the jets and bears fired their GMs. don't recall the redskins firing anyone this year.
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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by football51 on Tue 6 Jan 2015 - 18:40

    hobson54 wrote:did the redskins even have a prior GM?  i know the jets and bears fired their GMs.  don't recall the redskins firing anyone this year.




    Bruce Allen. He was team president/gm. Now, he'll just retain the president title.

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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by hobson54 on Wed 7 Jan 2015 - 9:21

    redskins have also interviewed rod graves, so they met the rooney requirement

    http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2015/01/jets_executive_rod_graves_interviews_for_job_as_washingtons_general_manager_per_report.html
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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by Sarge on Wed 7 Jan 2015 - 10:44

    I'm going to guess an announcement will be made Friday. It seems all coach and GM interviews will be wrapped up today. The Triumvirate can sleep on it tonight have a breakfast meeting to decide tomorrow, finalize the contract terms and hold a press conference Friday.

    If I had to guess I'd say MacCagnan and Marrone but it could be Kirshner and Quinn


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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by cysporsche on Wed 7 Jan 2015 - 11:44

    Not sure why we are shocked that potential GM candidates keep turning the job down ? With a track record like below, would anyone want to risk moving there family to N.J. for such an unstable job opportunity ? Would you guy's take our job after the way we screwed Idzik and many others before him.

    Titans GM - Steve Sebo 1960-61
    Titans GM - George Sauer 1962
    Jets GM/HC - Ween Ewbank 1963-74
    Jets GM - Al Ward 75-76
    Jets GM - Jim Kensil 77-78
    Jets GM / Director of Player Personnel - Mike Hickey
    Jets GM - John Royer
    Jets Director of Player Administration - Pat Kirwan
    Jets GM/HC - Joe Walton 88-89
    Jets GM - Dick Steinberg 90-94
    Jets GM/HC - Rich Kotite 95-96
    Jets GM/HC - Bill Parcells 97-2000
    Jets GM - Terry Bradway 2001-2005
    Jets GM - Mike Tannenbaum 2006-2012
    Jets GM - John Idzik 2013-2014

    Go Jets...Cyborg

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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by Old#15 on Wed 7 Jan 2015 - 11:51

    Cy, was that George Sauer's father in '62? Otherwise, not a particularly inspiring list.


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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by Superman55 on Wed 7 Jan 2015 - 11:52

    cysporsche wrote:Not sure why we are shocked that potential GM candidates keep turning the job down ? With a track record like below, would anyone want to risk moving there family to N.J. for such an unstable job opportunity ? Would you guy's take our job after the way we screwed Idzik and many others before him.

    Titans GM - Steve Sebo 1960-61
    Titans GM - George Sauer 1962
    Jets GM/HC - Ween Ewbank 1963-74
    Jets GM - Al Ward 75-76
    Jets GM - Jim Kensil 77-78
    Jets GM / Director of Player Personnel - Mike Hickey
    Jets GM - John Royer
    Jets Director of Player Administration - Pat Kirwan
    Jets GM/HC - Joe Walton 88-89
    Jets GM - Dick Steinberg 90-94
    Jets GM/HC - Rich Kotite 95-96
    Jets GM/HC - Bill Parcells 97-2000
    Jets GM - Terry Bradway 2001-2005
    Jets GM - Mike Tannenbaum 2006-2012
    Jets GM - John Idzik 2013-2014

    Go Jets...Cyborg

    Only 32 of these jobs even exist...and with the following name on that list:

    Jets GM/HC - Rich Kotite 95-96
    Jets GM/HC - Bill Parcells 97-2000
    Jets GM - Terry Bradway 2001-2005
    Jets GM - Mike Tannenbaum 2006-2012
    Jets GM - John Idzik 2013-2014

    ...it wouldn't be hard to be the best GM the Jets have had in the past 20 years (including over Parcells). Even a mediocre GM could be the best Jets GM in 20 years.

    That list is a who's who list of garbage GMs, IMO.

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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by hobson54 on Wed 7 Jan 2015 - 11:52

    cy, the jets have interviewed 6 people for the job. of the 4 that "turned them down", two (decosta and paton) have turned down numerous interview requests over the years, one (ballard) is very likely to get the bears job (he used to be a scout there), and one (pace) just got a promotion with the saints.

    don't buy into the media story that the jets are a terrible place to work and tons of people are turning them down. a number of these guys were long-shots to take the interview in the first place.

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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by Old#15 on Wed 7 Jan 2015 - 11:57

    hobson54 wrote:cy, the jets have interviewed 6 people for the job.  of the 4 that "turned them down", two (decosta and paton) have turned down numerous interview requests over the years, one (ballard) is very likely to get the bears job (he used to be a scout there), and one (pace) just got a promotion with the saints.

    don't buy into the media story that the jets are a terrible place to work and tons of people are turning them down.  a number of these guys were long-shots to take the interview in the first place.  

    If anything, the Jets are doing their due diligence in reaching out to these guys. I'm sure they realize they were longshots, but worth giving it a try.

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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by cysporsche on Wed 7 Jan 2015 - 12:05

    hobson54 wrote:cy, the jets have interviewed 6 people for the job.  of the 4 that "turned them down", two (decosta and paton) have turned down numerous interview requests over the years, one (ballard) is very likely to get the bears job (he used to be a scout there), and one (pace) just got a promotion with the saints.

    don't buy into the media story that the jets are a terrible place to work and tons of people are turning them down.  a number of these guys were long-shots to take the interview in the first place.  


    Greg, I hear you, but lets be honest, the Jets have basically been a dysfunctional team since their inception 55 years ago. Only Weeb Eubank & the Big Tuna are the only 2 desirable names off that long list, and Parcells did not handle the cap, only football decisions.

    I still think the cap job needs to go to a financial wiz and the GM role should be only player related (draft, free agency, etc.). Tough to mix the 2 jobs.

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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by SackExchange on Wed 7 Jan 2015 - 12:13

    What has gotten into Cimini?

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/48314/the-jets-gm-vacancy-pros-and-cons?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by football51 on Wed 7 Jan 2015 - 12:25

    SackExchange wrote:What has gotten into Cimini?

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/48314/the-jets-gm-vacancy-pros-and-cons?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter





    Mehta stole his gimmick.

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    Re: List of GM candidates

    Post by soj on Wed 7 Jan 2015 - 12:43

    Sarge wrote:I'm going to guess an announcement will be made Friday.  It seems all coach and GM interviews will be wrapped up today.  The Triumvirate can sleep on it tonight have a breakfast meeting to decide tomorrow, finalize the contract terms and hold a press conference Friday.

    If I had to guess I'd say MacCagnan and Marrone but it could be Kirshner and Quinn


    I agree Woody said all along he wanted the process to be completed. For me I be happy with either one of those but prefer K&Q .... hope your right.

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